Bienvenue à la Révolution!

[Spankenstyne 0]

.....but somebody has to care for the less fortunate
rancor indeed! It's been lacking.






Fortunately I'm stuck outta town and safe from proving new pics of any of my Drymarchon snacks(tm)

[Nir 0]

reptilX a écrit:

I see 4 painted turtle. am I all right?

Try again.

[JSI 0]

Here are a couple more ugly brown snakes. I guess you guys like them.









I miss summer




Jeremy

[Marc Dubois 0]

Nir a écrit:

reptilX a écrit:

I see 4 painted turtle. am I all right?

Try again.

Moi j'en compte 5 (en avant sur la buche, il y en a une derrière l'autre).

[Marc Dubois 0]

Oh BTW, great herping and habitat shot guys !!!

I'll probably return to find other saugas next summer

[Melanie76 0]

Nir a écrit:

reptilX a écrit:

I see 4 painted turtle. am I all right?

Try again.

My guess is 5 as well. I think I see one little fella off to the right just barely sticking his head up out of the water, under some reeds. I how you can see the reflection of the big guy stretching his neck out, in the water.

Where's Waldo?

Great pictures Jeremy

[Manu-superiorgeckos 0]

5 for me too....Unless it's a 2 headed Turtle!



Nice picts!

[JSI 0]

rancor_ a écrit:

What a horrid creature that thing is! But have no fear, I have a cure.... For it, and the rest of you [i]morph keeper's

I have a few snakes that would love to have a little deformed snack once in a while.

They are almost begging, "Give me that albino!!!"



Jeremy

P.S. I like Black Tails!!!

[D. Pogue 0]

Before I start counting the Painted Turtles in Nick's photo, I'll post a telling turtle pic of my own. This was taken early last Fall on a well-travelled cottage road in North-Central Ontario. This little chelonian made it across the road......with a little help from a friend.........Many more turtles, sadly, don't make it past the death-dealing gauntlet of speeding cars and trucks that fill Ontario Cottage Country roads every season. Who cares about a stupid snake or turtle when stopping or swerving slightly would require even a small effort? I mean, some millionnaire might be a few minutes late for his appointment to mow the football-field-sized front lawn at his satellite-dish-and-bigscreen-TV-equipped Luxury Retreat by the lake...........




Since everyone is posting great Northern Watersnake shots, I'll add some of my own to the growing pile. Ugly Brown Snakes indeed .










Look........it's a Naturally-Occurring Deformity . As opposed to all the un-natural ones we're inundated with in the Hobby these days........ ..........




She doesn't seem to be suffering from that old injury, though. She looks healthy enough to me. But she's a "wild snake". I've been told by "experts" recently that "wild snakes" are all full of parasites and just waiting to die. Could the man at the Pet Store have been wrong about that too??? Hmmmmmmm...........




Actually, she was doing rather well for herself. She was quite clearly gravid, and likely about to give birth very soon. This is the latest in the season that I have found a still-gravid natricine this far North..................It was September 24, 2008 to be exact.




We didn't observe her for very long. Once she had tired of our intrusion into her domain, she chose to retreat to the safety of a rock crevice. "See ya later, Stumpy! Best of luck with the new family".




One more habitat shot. This Northern Vista is the rugged shoreline home of many a fine Nerodia sipedon sipedon.




A beautiful woodland pond, only minutes away from that same rocky shoreline . I can hardly wait to see this one in the Spring of 2009. It's always filled with breeding Wood Frogs, Rana sylvatica, and American Toads, Bufo americanus .



Regards,
D.

ps - Good to see our pal "rancor_" in fine form........angry again, as usual . Somebody has to keep all this fun and frivolity in check!

[Spankenstyne 0]

Don to expand on the chelonian cottage crushers... I recall a study done with rubber turtles on roads & roadsides where the greater number of drivers were actually witnessed to swerve towards the animal rather than just following their course or even making an attempt at swerving out of the way.

I'll see if I can find it later but it frankly just filled me with well....rancor


"Hey Cleetus...aim for it!"

[JSI 0]

I'll add one last picture to continue the deformity trend.



Jeremy

[LD/50 0]

Wow.

I need to make a doctors appointment tomorrow morning, my jaw is very sore from stretching so much and then hitting the floor LOL! This thread seems to have taken on a life of its own, it is growing like a weed right before my eyes. I have to thank Manu, Marc, Justin, Stav, and all the other Repticlic bosses for allowing this incredibly good conversation to happen here . What a breath of fresh air.

I'll try my hand at Nir's turtle quiz, I think I can count 7, maybe even 8 painters:



Its hard to tell with the last 3 'possible' turtles (NOT 'possible HETS' LOL ) since the resolution on the pic is pretty small, but I think theres more than 5 for sure.

Too bad about the road kills, too. I have seen it many times in the past few years on the way to the cottage. I have heard of the study that Spankenstyne is talking about. Seems like lots of drivers do try to deliberately hit animals (especially herps) on the road, I cant even imagine what type of person would get pleasure from that kind of act.

steven

PS 'Naturally occurring deformities'
PPS 'RealSnakes' tm are 'ToughSnakes' tm

[Nir 0]

This TV show is brought to you by infomercials!

"Always wanted a gartersnake, but just can't stand the fact that they come naturally in a wide variety of colours pattern and behavior. Plus they are not worth much, so you can not make money over them. We have the solution for YOU!! The new tessera Cornsnake!! It looks like a garter, yet is a 1200 $ cornsnake!!

Get yours today for 100 easy payments of 12$ !!



ps.
pss. "frankly, I don't know how many turtles there are... hehe There are 5 for sure, but I see a couple others I'm not sure..."
psss. "does somebody know what tessera means? Sounds more like a type of carpeting floor to me...."

[Spankenstyne 0]

I see waldo, I mean part of a yellow plastron from one also facing the camera on the far right about 2/3 the way up.

[stevie 0]

To all,least see you if you can count how many in this pic?Just a little hint some are hiding damn good,lol.

[stevie 0]

Look what this beast pulled out of the water!!!

[stevie 0]

Sorry Don,not to ruin your thread,but i had to share this with you and all the members of Repticlic,spring is in the air.

[D. Pogue 0]

Nir a écrit:

This TV show is brought to you by infomercials!

As are most "TV Shows".

Funny story, Nick.........I have recently received e-mails from several people telling me that they have read on "The Internet" that I myself have these so-called "tessara" corns.......apparently they are valued at $1200.00 per messed-up cornsnake. Again, for those who care about such matters, I do not. And I never have. These same Vebsytes evidently have reported that I am "moving to Edmonton, Alberta". Again, I am not. What's with these people? Can't they find something/someone else to talk about? Perhaps they are they growing tired of their own endless, repetitive comments about "my balls", and the various permutations thereof ............? You know, the garbage that actually passes for "humour" with these "Investors", these clods who somehow feel the knee-jerk requirement to constantly repeat the same tired, unfunny, puerile junk that they have all dined out on for so long now. Ad nauseum. Hasn't that juvenilia been strip-mined deep past the bedrock?? I would respectfully say, "Give that crap a rest, guys........for your own self-respect, if for nothing else......"

It all makes me so mad, I feel like posting a photograph of a snake eating another snake. Yup.......that's what it makes me feel like doing..............



Sad part is, I wish I did have a few $12,000.00 "tessaroo" corns here so I could feed them to a Drymarchon. Any Drymarchon, really.........

Regards,
DP

ps - "100 easy payments of $12.00!!"
pps - "10 easy payments of $1,2000.000.00!!"
ppps - "1 easy payment of $12,000,000.00!!
pppps - "What kind of Gullible Cluck (tm) pays car/food/rent/mortgage money for a Designer Pet??"
ppppps - Give me a minute and I'll explain it to ya.........

[D. Pogue 0]

Marc Dubois a écrit:

Oh BTW, great herping and habitat shot guys !!!

I'll probably return to find other saugas next summer

Just found this....

Well, Marc......perhaps you'd like to join myself and Jon Davidson in a Sistrurus Hunt sometime this upcoming season.....?? Doesn't that sound like fun? Of course, I must insist that you bring Nick with you .

Jon and I never fail. And we can prove it. You're welcome to join in.

I'll just bet that a long day "In The Field" with Jon and myself would ultimately be more rewarding than a day spent wandering aimlessly around a pathetic "Expo" filled with table after table of Deformed Designer Pets. Just a thought.......... .

Regards (as always),
DP

[JSI 0]

Here are a couple nice shots I took last night of one particularly grumpy yet very attractive female “snake eater”.






Jeremy

P.S. I'd like to go herping too

[stevie 0]

How about we gather some herpers and go out on a herping Expedition,Cheers Stevie

[Melanie76 0]

Jeremy!! the Black tails are gorgeous!!

Personally, I think they look like they are almost begging, "Give me to Melanie!!!"

Are you planning on breeding them next year?

[Fromhell 0]

Aaaa...how I've missed your threads like this on RC Don. Now the most interesting topics gracing the boards are to the tune "HELP, I just bought a bumble bee tuna fish swiss cheese ball python (het for fruit rollup)....and its not eating its crickets!".....followed by expert advice...."well did you warm the crickets first"

Citation :

Sad part is, I wish I did have a few $12,000.00 "tessaroo" corns here so I could feed them to a Drymarchon. Any Drymarchon, really.........

Regards,
DP

ps - "100 easy payments of $12.00!!"
pps - "10 easy payments of $1,2000.000.00!!"
ppps - "1 easy payment of $12,000,000.00!!
pppps - "What kind of Gullible Cluck (tm) pays car/food/rent/mortgage money for a Designer Pet??"
ppppps - Give me a minute and I'll explain it to ya.........

LoL....man you kill me...never a dull post

Chris

[D. Pogue 0]

Here are a few CriboShots, just for Melanie. Avert your eyes, everyone else. These pics are for Melanie only. No peeking allowed for the rest of ya! Oh.......alright.......look at them if you must. I guess I can't really stop you all.





Here's a Cribo of a slightly different kind......








I thought that I'd revive an old "classic" portrait here on Repticlic.......This one seems to be popular for some reason.......





"Yucatan" Blacktail Cribo.




Cribo in palm tree.




Cribo in banana tree.




These two Yellowtails are dilligently protecting Nick's favourite beer.




Angry Eastern Indigo. Don't mess with this Morph-Eating Machine. Don't even think about it.




Regards,
D.

ps -

pps -

ppps - Nice to see another new Repticlic member join the little "Revolution" here . There's lots more where this stuff came from, Chris. Love that Atheris avatar, by the way .

[Spankenstyne 0]

Oh I needed some of those kinds of pictures today. Am I the only one who keeps scrolling back to just stare and soak them in?

The Donmarchon mooseheadbrewsicus are very nice

[Nir 0]

"Ok look you yellow tail cribos, I'm gonna trade you this sausage plus this tuna fish can for that Moosehead beer. Plus, who want's moosehead really?? It's not that great... (Tries to steal beer fom cribos and gets ... a warning) "

Lesson learned, always respect Dry, you never know when you might had to get your beer back from one...

I love the shots Don. But the indigo takes the cake. ( wonder what that would look like? ) These snakes are just something else...

[JSI 0]

Melanie76 a écrit:

Jeremy!! the Black tails are gorgeous!!

Personally, I think they look like they are almost begging, "Give me to Melanie!!!"

Are you planning on breeding them next year?

Thanks, but you know who really has to be thanked for their beauty, the Drymarchon master himself.

I'm going to attempt to breed them throughout the year. The previous owner(how many people can figure out where they came from ) had the pair together for some time before they came here to me. I do have another female that has just entered ecdysis so once that is done I will put them together and see what happens. Will see, I'm not experienced with breeding these wonderful Drymarchons but hopefully I can get some good advice.

Jeremy

[Melanie76 0]

Indigos, Yellowtails, Blacktails..Oh My!!

Thanks for the post Don..You're such a sweetie!
They are all fantastic... What more can I say, I don't think I have enough words in my vocabulary to describe how much I like them all!! You definitely have the nicest collection of snakes that I know of. With Jeremy coming in right behind you!!

Jeremy: Nice!! I'm excited for you. Good luck. That female is a real beauty. Can I be on an unofficial waiting list if you happen to get and eggs? You're going to have to move into a bigger home! Congrats on the amazing new additions!!

[Marc Dubois 0]

D. Pogue a écrit:

Marc Dubois a écrit:

Oh BTW, great herping and habitat shot guys !!!

I'll probably return to find other saugas next summer

Just found this....

Well, Marc......perhaps you'd like to join myself and Jon Davidson in a Sistrurus Hunt sometime this upcoming season.....?? Doesn't that sound like fun? Of course, I must insist that you bring Nick with you .

Jon and I never fail. And we can prove it. You're welcome to join in.

I'll just bet that a long day "In The Field" with Jon and myself would ultimately be more rewarding than a day spent wandering aimlessly around a pathetic "Expo" filled with table after table of Deformed Designer Pets. Just a thought.......... .

Regards (as always),
DP

That sound interesting Don !!

[beekeeper 0]

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

[JSI 0]

Oh my now this is interesting and very inteligent.

beekeeper a écrit:

Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum

Sure if you like talking about farts in a can, or where Bin Laden is hiding.

beekeeper a écrit:

missassaga rattlesnake

What the hell is a Missassaga rattlesnake??? Maybe that is the locality form around Mississauga I have not heard of?

As for the garter snake crap, not everyone keeps snake to make a fortune and have a multi million dollar house that their parents actually paid for. Some people keep and breed snakes because they..................wait for.............ACTUALLY LIKE SNAKES!!!! Wow sounds strange doesn't it.

Jeremy

P.S. You don't have a 7 series, you're not intelligent enough to figure out idrive.
P.S.S. pioneers? of being a douche.

[Marc Dubois 0]

beekeeper a écrit:

And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!!

Sorry about that mr. beekeeper, Massasaugas are not illegal to PHOTOGRAPH !!!

Nobody hear (I hope...) keep eastern massasauga.

[cowboy xav 0]

JSI, mississauga rattlesnake is not a subspecie, it's the "sous-espèce nominal" sorry, I dont know this word in english... the scientific name is sistrurus catenatus catenus, for the one we can find in ontario

[Marc Dubois 0]

reptilX a écrit:

JSI, mississauga rattlesnake is not a subspecie, it's the "sous-espèce nominal" sorry, I dont know this word in english... the scientific name is sistrurus catenatus catenus, for the one we can find in ontario

pourquoi as-tu écris cela xavier ?? personne ne parle de sous-espèces ??

C'était juste une référence a la ville de Mississauga (ou il n'y a pas de Massasauga...)

[JSI 0]

reptilX a écrit:

JSI, mississauga rattlesnake is not a subspecie, it's the "sous-espèce nominal" sorry, I dont know this word in english... the scientific name is sistrurus catenatus catenus, for the one we can find in ontario

Don't worry I know S. c. catenatus just don't forget the "a" in Massasauga.

Jeremy

[Jon Davidson 0]

beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

What is a 'breeder bee'? Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

[D. Pogue 0]

beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

Is that you, "Brandon"??

I must admit, I'm rather honoured to learn that someone of such stature cared enough to follow me here. The embarrassingly poor writing skills aside, I mean.

Or maybe it's really the legendary Baron Von Corkenheimer, in disguise? You know, the not-so-Self-Made "Duke Of Deformity"??

Ah, it's probably not him........I find it more than a little curious, though, because............well........it sounds a lot like him and is reminiscent of his "debating level" or what laughably passes for "style" in some quarters........Nah............he's likely far too busy making millions of dollars to be wasting valuable time posting on a Thread like this little one. It must be someone else. Yes, that's it........it's someone else.

Nevertheless, whomever this cluck is, all I can say is..............



GET OFF MY LAWN.







Regards,
D.

ps - "LMAO" indeed.

[JSI 0]

That made me smile

Baron Von Corkenheimer I have to write that one down.

Why does someone that keeps insects and arachnids care about people keeping snake, especially the lowley Thamnophis?
Furthermore who cares about british petroleum morphs???

Jeremy

[stevie 0]

JSi,what is wrong with the "Bin Laden Thread",come on personal attack ,For the beekeeper not cool on your part to attack someone personally on this educated thread and site where everyone is equal.Just my 2 cents.That is all i have to say.Cheers So lets all continue to live in harmony,lol or at least try to P.S Mr. Beekeeper why would you insult someone like that?Instead of keeping your mouth closed,and learning you decided to throw insults,why?Who knows,but it goes to show that there is something seriously wrong with your genes so what i personnally suggest you should do is some research on why your emotions and brain functions in a cowardly manner and then you should sit in a closet and reflect on what you said with a Mister Freeze in your mouth that your mom handed to you on this Bright sunny day to cheer you up,cause you are very deeply mixed up and out of line here,and there is no place for people like you here or for a matter of fact on R.C either.Then when you have realized the mistakes you have done,you should apoligize for being totally immature and hotheaded.Cheers "Frenchie the Roughneck"

[justin1 0]

beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

Well, welcome to the forum Beekeeper!
First of all, i don't want to denigrate the poeples you refered to but this is someone i would call a pioneer...


Also, don't know if you are aware but it's the colubrids and other snakes section. If you would like to enjoy the lounge for long enough that everybody taste your humor, please don't attack nobody and leave your insect/arthropod discussion for the appropriate section.
Ho, and by the way We would really appreciate you to took the time to present yourself in the appropriate section.
Take care and drive safely.

[Nir 0]

Oh God what was I thinking when I bought those puny little Spilotes!! Thinking about it now, I won't be able to get rich!! Bouhou... I better get out there and buy one of those cool Bee. Then I can make money breeding something I don't like, everybody has, and is boring as shit.

ps. "pioneer = Bert Langerwerf" THAT's a pioneer
pss. "it is not what you keep that defines you, it is what you say on a forum" ahah
psss. "Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes." this probably defines you as someone with no interest in reptiles whatsoever.

EDIT :

[JSI 0]

Nir a écrit:

this probably defines you as someone with no interest in reptiles whatsoever.

This is very insightful...................who could this "beekeeper" possibly be?

Jeremy

P.S. http://www.ilovebees.com
P.S……………it must be someone else.

[Melanie76 0]

What an idiot this beekeeper is..lol.

Is it really so bad to like snakes, for what they are..instead of the money they can put in your pockets. You sound like a fool in your post, a 15 year old sook, with shit in his pants at best. Get a life...

ps..Good luck with your Wobble-Bees..now, there is cruelty to animals.

[Jon Davidson 0]

Nir a écrit:

"it is not what you keep that defines you, it is what you say on a forum"

I agree. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

[LD/50 0]

beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

Pure 100% Crap.

Whats with these bitter and yappy types? I personally dont come here to read this kind of pointless and weak 'flame' garbage, I come here to learn and yes even to laugh a little. Posters like this clown contribute nothing, because its clear they have NOTHING to say. If you dont like it dont search it out to read it. That simple. Try and read that ridiculous insulting post and get anything from it except that the poster (and his 'kind') has a 'personal problem' with someone who many of us feel is the best writer and photographer on ANY reptile site. Period. This is why so many reptile keepers don't take most reptile boards seriously, and avoid them, especially 'one' board in particular where "cash is king", and stupidity, ugly colour-morphs and childish 'bans' rule. JSI, Jon Davidson, Don, "me", we've all been 'banned' and then 'unbanned' at another site for what terrible crimes I'm still not sure. It shouldn't be a crime to have and state an unpopular opinion, should it.

To you beekeeper I would say:

Enjoy your investments because obviously thats what you're into. Money and cars, bla bla bla, are so important to you and the mutant snakes in plastic drawers are just what gets you to what you really value in life, thats pretty clear. Most people on this thread have a respect for nature, and also for Mr. Pogue and his always enjoyable and informative posts. I seriously doubt that Don cares what some little worm like you thinks about him LOL. Go back where you came from, as you are truly respected there. But not here.

steven

PS "Prolly" . Look, I know I'm not the best writer or speller, but "prolly" ? Did you fail grade 3 English? What a clown.
PPS Nobody is talking about KEEPING Masassauga rattlers here, why does it always have to be about "owning" things all the time?
PPS "Get off MY lawn too!"

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D. Pogue a écrit:

beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

Is that you, "Brandon"??

I must admit, I'm rather honoured to learn that someone of such stature cared enough to follow me here. The embarrassingly poor writing skills aside, I mean.

Or maybe it's really the legendary Baron Von Corkenheimer, in disguise? You know, the not-so-Self-Made "Duke Of Deformity"??

Ah, it's probably not him........I find it more than a little curious, though, because............well........it sounds a lot like him and is reminiscent of his "debating level" or what laughably passes for "style" in some quarters........Nah............he's likely far too busy making millions of dollars to be wasting valuable time posting on a Thread like this little one. It must be someone else. Yes, that's it........it's someone else.

Nevertheless, whomever this cluck is, all I can say is..............



GET OFF MY LAWN.







Regards,
D.

ps - "LMAO" indeed.

No, No Don let him stay on my lawn,so i can use him for some compost for my lawn,oh no thats not good cause then i would have to spend all day ripping out the bad weeds,oh yes it's good i luv ripping things out of there sockets Cheers Frenchie the Roughneck

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JSI a écrit:

Nir a écrit:

this probably defines you as someone with no interest in reptiles whatsoever.

This is very insightful...................who could this "beekeeper" possibly be?

Jeremy

P.S. http://www.ilovebees.com
P.S……………it must be someone else.

Yeah, Jeremy, I even thought it might be this guy (speaking of yappy little dogs LOL):

http://www.bagshop.com/store/mcart.php?ID=2907

But it isn't. Still, he's a cute little pup, isnt he??

steven
PS "Fruity little dog-purse"

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Steven (LD/50) has once again got a very good point. We should try and keep this about the snakes we enjoy.

I was hoping the lack of activity over the weekend in this thread would lead to some great field shots of Ontario herps that people were seeing???

Jeremy

P.S. $225!!!! for a corky? It must be het for Red Axanthic or something

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beekeeper a écrit:

Nice to see this 'Master Of De Puppets' douchebag has found a new home, he was stinking up the old one for the rest of us there. Also great to see animal cruelty being encuraged feed one snake to another is ok is it?? So let me get this straight, he says its not ok for me to keep and breed Bee's and Spiders, but its ok for a know nothing a$$hole to feed perfetly good snakes (that could be sold to a good home) to other snakes? And the guy keeps garter snakes, oh great be so proud of your little garter snakes like a 10 year old kid would, LMAO. How much are your little garter snakes worth, Mr.."reptile expert"?? Prolly your whole collection is worth less than one of my breeder Bees. Try to get a new 7 series with the money from a bunch of stupid garter snakes. The dealer would laugh in your face, like most big snake breeders do now. I'm sick of hearing this anti morph crap all the time. Morphs are here to stay, how many people want to invest in normals? Your just another washed up old timer who cant even touch real pioneers like Corey Woods, Mark Mandic or Jeff Favelle. At least those top breeders have accomplished something worthwhile in this industry. Meaning something positive. Any of those breeders make more selling BP's or boa's in a week than this loser will make in 10 years!! BP morphs are the future of this industry, get used to it. And thanks for posting the missassaga rattlesnake pics, which BTW they are ILLEGAL TO KEEP Mr. expert!! Oh and I wonder how many of these 'original' photos are actually COPIED from the net and past off as his own??? Maybe all this stupid crap is why he was BANNED from Canadas biggest AND best reptile forum?? LMAO!!!

It seems our little picnic has been visited by some arthropods... Inevitable though, there’s alot of value here in this thread... With so many personal attacks in one post, I can’t help but wonder why it affects you so, Mr. or Mrs. Beekeeper, that someone such as Mr. P. Voices his opinion as freely on the internet as you have. It would seem to me, that you have more to thank him for than to berate him. Afterall, he has been keeping and breeding P. Regius far longer than the “pioneers” you listed in you clever missive. Should you not show more respect to someone that has advanced legislation and captive propagation of a multitude of species? It’s laughable that you would even hint at trying to educate him, or anyone else on this thread about anything other than Bayerische Motoren Werke, if that is indeed where you’re true interest lies. I feel it would be counterproductive for me to try to illustrate how erroneous your post is, dealing with the language barrier issues you must face trying to communicate in English. I do appreciate how difficult it is though, I too would seem as poorly versed in the art of language should I try to compose a post longer than a few words, here on this French site outside our Lounge.... I welcome you, however, "Beekeeper" to stick around, pull up a chair in the back, sit quietly... and listen. Gina will be by shortly. You might just learn a thing or two about your newest hobby.... You never know, there may just be a couple experienced people here with a couple beautiful non-morphs that you might want to add to your collection, someday....

However, I feel it is pertinent to the current situation of backlash towards one individual, both public and behind the scenes, to point out that if it weren’t for people like the “puppet master”, there would be a void in the resource that many people (myself included) utilize and a chasm in the community as a whole. Not many people are capable of teetering on the line between bureaucrats, mainstream and the J&W, all in one residence. Between fieldwork (past and present), personal “projects” (past and present) and making sure that even people like you can enjoy coming into a hobby that is as fascinating as it is educational, we are all fortuitous that a bigger picture is always in the foreground.

Why is it that the so called “purists” are the enemy in the hobby then? We morph haters are only looking beyond what short term investors deem valuable. Someone that has never even held a reptile coming into herptoculture is welcomed in with open arms by the “pioneers” of deleterious gene breeding, why? Because it’s good for business. Some one speaking openly about the damage this causes is branded as evil simply because it’s “bad for business”, to be silenced at all costs. There is a word for people that attempt to sequester knowledge, and they shouldn’t exist in the society we are led to believe we live in....

Morphs of no kind are the long term future in this hobby. They can’t be. The past 15 years of butchery will probably only elevate the need for closed collections that are unviolated by the lack of convictions that keepers let dominate their cash obsessed minds. The inability to find an unadulterated animal will eventually make wild-types the prize, and the mutants that spew forth from the cloacas once again will be fodder for the pickle jar, or fed to “perfectly healthy snakes”. I have to believe it, even if the wisdom of the keeper says otherwise.

Post scriptum :

PPS: Something for the bees.....

PPPS: A photographer stealing internet pictures......
PPPPS : “Good day, PussCake!”

[Nir 0]

You know how to use words Mr. Rancor! Great text.