Bienvenue à la Révolution!

[justin1 0]

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"this thread looks like a bunch msn texts of people in their own universe chatting 24-7". Indeed

I officially tell you msn now rule the world! We can join or "no-joint" but it still personal decision. Can we still re-evolute?

p.s. MFWZ...
pps. Can Gina still our waitress?
ppps. WoW! What a crazyyelow!


pppps. Now back to the built.
ppssss. See you in June-July-August guys, that's up to you.

[JSI 0]

justin a écrit:

p.s. MFWZ...

I <3

[Nir 0]

justin a écrit:

ppssss. See you in June-July-August guys, that's up to you.

I'll bring moosehead, you guys bring dry's. Mouahahah

[Stav 0]

how narrow minded some are ...... a bunch of childs that dont wanna understand

i wonder what is not understandable to give people a chance to understand texts especially in english on french forum ..... and give the opportunity to be easy when they search for something that is for interest for them ....

sorry its not me that put everybody in the same boat and its not me either that is treating people like whores without even knowing their background or passion yheir accomplishements failures or views ....

good luck in your futur if you want start your own forum where people act like childs and deform everything and that dont take replies that dont fit their standards especially when they themselfs put everything in the same basket without any questions made ....


As for D Pogue .....


Go read on any forum english or french since you speak french a bit of what I write and then critisize if its only pics post , or what i say on wannabe "website breeders " ..... Then and only then spit your spit like you do here .....



Goodbye childs ...... too bas there was some nice subjects that could serve the reptile community ....

[rancor_ 0]

Turn out the lights and flip over the bar stools, this one looks like happy hour is over.
Im not going to bother to engage you, Mr. Stav, even though you have hurled some rather petty and unnecessary names on us. A simple " Please leave my website" would have been sufficient. Do try and recall, we were invited here to carry on a thread that is now lost, just as this one is about to be. We were invited here to share our pictures and "msn" conversation and were under the impression that anyone and everyone would be welcome, and our main focus as a group seems to revolve around "other snakes". Contained in one thread, I would assume, would be much better than dispersed throughout the entire board. Afterall as you plainly put it, this is your French forum, and most of us can only communicate coherently in English.

Rather than I stoop to what would be easy, I would instead like to simply Thank-you. It has been both educational and enlightening that which has transpired here on Repticlic. My hope is that this thread, this J&W Lounge, is left to stand as the information and views shared here are indeed timeless.

- Rob

Post scriptum : Gina darling.... Cheque please!

[JSI 0]

Oh I see, someone putting a little pressure on you Stav?

Jeremy

[LD/50 0]

Well....my thoughts are that a bunch of us were invited here by one of the bosses, and everyone knew that most of us were 'difficult' because we questioned the party line. We've all been banned or put on 'read only' elsewhere, THAT'S WHY WE CAME HERE. So what you got here was or shouldn't have been any big surprise, Mr. Stav.

What's the matter, Mr. Stav? Got too many messed-up pets that you can't sell in this damaged economy?? Feeling the heat because you're "invested" in the shittiest "business" on the planet?? You sure picked a great load of scumbags to defend here on your site. Remember, you're the one who personalized the debate. All most of us did here was speak out against "bad information", "bad ideas" and a hobby thats overwhelmed with money grubbers. If you are NOT a money grubber, why would you be offended by the word?

I think that stevie the roughneck has a little frozen treat for you, sir. I suggest that you take it and sit on the front steps of this site and think about what you've done .

Also, please make sure you 'wipe' and then 'flush'



before you pull your pants back up. People will start to notice if you don't.

Enjoy your new "controversy free" site, sir. You deserve it.

steven chalmers

PS Feel free to close my account, I won't need it anymore. The last thing I'm interested in is "another" site where the main goal is to "just make nice" all the time.
PPS Your MSN comment is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in print, and I've seen a lot of "stupid" over the past couple of years.
PPPS Too bad some people can't see the difference between illiterate MSN crap and legitimate, intelligent points. There really IS a difference, maybe one day you'll learn to differentiate.

[justin1 0]

Gina! Could you please send Another round and the best lounge table for my invited friends.

[bistrobob85111 0]

I've been relatively absent recently but wow, it's good to see that we're still in the spirit .

phil.

[Jon Davidson 0]

I've been reluctant to comment in the discussion lately because so many members have offered insightful and thought provoking observations on the important issue of ethics as it relates to the responsible private ownership of Reptiles. In my view, it is both sad and revealing that individuals like Mr. Stav are so easily challenged by such a small minority of like minded people who have merely questioned the current status quo in today's Reptile/Pet keeping industry. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

[Nir 0]

justin a écrit:

Gina! Could you please send Another round and the best lounge table for my invited friends.

What will it be?

Albino "golden child" reticulated python with a side order of Super Pastel Clown Ball Python?

[Spankenstyne 0]

Interesting...

I do wonder why it took over 3 months and 12 pages of posts before an all-inclusive, anti-censorship thread inviting difference of opinion & respectful open debate is suddenly without warning being silenced under the weak argument of elitism and being exclusionary. Wouldn't pushing to exclude and silence the voices here due to disagreeing with opinion in fact be that very thing? Ironic.

Stav it's your site to do as you please.
You can certainly just ask us to cease and leave your site without any further word.
There's no need to get into the details of what you posted, other than to say it's unfortunate if one got that view from reading the thread, even more unfortunate for anyone to feel challenged by the content.

Instead I'll leave it at thanks for the invite and the use of the site for as long as it lasted.
Au revoir...

Last one left please turn out the lights.

Don't forget to tip your waitress...

[Stav 0]

LD/50 a écrit:

Well....my thoughts are that a bunch of us were invited here by one of the bosses, and everyone knew that most of us were 'difficult' because we questioned the party line. We've all been banned or put on 'read only' elsewhere, THAT'S WHY WE CAME HERE. So what you got here was or shouldn't have been any big surprise, Mr. Stav.

What's the matter, Mr. Stav? Got too many messed-up pets that you can't sell in this damaged economy?? Feeling the heat because you're "invested" in the shittiest "business" on the planet?? You sure picked a great load of scumbags to defend here on your site. Remember, you're the one who personalized the debate. All most of us did here was speak out against "bad information", "bad ideas" and a hobby thats overwhelmed with money grubbers. If you are NOT a money grubber, why would you be offended by the word?

I think that stevie the roughneck has a little frozen treat for you, sir. I suggest that you take it and sit on the front steps of this site and think about what you've done .

Also, please make sure you 'wipe' and then 'flush'



before you pull your pants back up. People will start to notice if you don't.

Enjoy your new "controversy free" site, sir. You deserve it.

steven chalmers

PS Feel free to close my account, I won't need it anymore. The last thing I'm interested in is "another" site where the main goal is to "just make nice" all the time.
PPS Your MSN comment is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in print, and I've seen a lot of "stupid" over the past couple of years.
PPPS Too bad some people can't see the difference between illiterate MSN crap and legitimate, intelligent points. There really IS a difference, maybe one day you'll learn to differentiate.

My god stop i'm gonna cry .......

If you wanna leave feel free to do so no one kicked you out or banned anybody .....

The same old thing ...... people start a debate ...... but they only want to be said what only " They want to hear " and then cry when someone expresses their opinions, and view on their says .... especially when it goes that whats said goes quite in the same direction ..... same old narcissistic tunel vision ......

Listen dear I invite you go read on reptiles canada my views on the subject especially since 2005 after a trip to corcovado park 1 month in costa-rica and then speak to me on how I view the whole internet and the hobby .....since you speak only english and cant read here and see how much i care about money or how much i breed or not breed or if sell or not sell ..... you know what we say here ? Breath by the nose ......

Some of you made some sence on some views unfortunatly everything is in deep sea after viewing these late posts .....

Spankenstyne a écrit:

Interesting...

I do wonder why it took over 3 months and 12 pages of posts before an all-inclusive, anti-censorship thread inviting difference of opinion & respectful open debate is suddenly without warning being silenced under the weak argument of elitism and being exclusionary. Wouldn't pushing to exclude and silence the voices here due to disagreeing with opinion in fact be that very thing? Ironic.

Stav it's your site to do as you please.
You can certainly just ask us to cease and leave your site without any further word.
There's no need to get into the details of what you posted, other than to say it's unfortunate if one got that view from reading the thread, even more unfortunate for anyone to feel challenged by the content.

Instead I'll leave it at thanks for the invite and the use of the site for as long as it lasted.
Au revoir...

Last one left please turn out the lights.

Don't forget to tip your waitress...

Did anyone " sensorshiped anything ? " did i miss something ?? Or did someone just expressed his views on something that dosent make your happyness happy ? .......

I never felt challenged I only talked my views on some points.......

If you dont like other people sharing other opinions different than yours feel free to do what ever you want leave or stay ..... we are in a free country here .....

[Stav 0]

Forgot .......if someone is too lasy to go read on the reptiles canada english forum my views on the whole subject and more , go on your msn's and ask a Guy that knows me like Justin or Nir or whoever else on how much i like money or think about money with my snakes ...... before again judjing people you dont know and have no clue what you talk about .....


EDIT**** dont forget too to ask to people that know me personnally how much I " prostitute " myself when it comes to selling people too or if I prostitute myself in sales even if I would not have anything to eat .... how much i prostute myself not selling to people before making any judgements on me .....

lol the more i read the more i'm surprised ........

[Jon Davidson 0]

Stav a écrit:

The same old thing ...... people start a debate ...... but they only want to be said what only " They want to hear " and then cry when someone expresses their opinions, and view on their says .... especially when it goes that whats said goes quite in the same direction ..... same old narcissistic tunel vision ......


I never felt challenged I only talked my views on some points.......

Yeah... Right... Just a quick word of Thanks to Mr. Justin for your efforts in providing us 'Revolutionaries' an on-line place to gather and express our perspectives- if only for a limited time. Our next 'Lounge' will definitely have to be for 'Adults Only'. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

[rancor_ 0]

Stav a écrit:

Forgot .......if someone is too lasy to go read on the reptiles canada english forum my views on the whole subject and more , go on your msn's and ask a Guy that knows me like Justin or Nir or whoever else on how much i like money or think about money with my snakes ...... before again judjing people you dont know and have no clue what you talk about .....


EDIT**** dont forget too to ask to people that know me personnally how much I " prostitute " myself when it comes to selling people too or if I prostitute myself in sales even if I would not have anything to eat .... how much i prostute myself not selling to people before making any judgements on me .....

lol the more i read the more i'm surprised ........

Well, I just did a search of this thread... Stav your name was mentioned **EDIT** previous to your apearance ** a total of 0 times. Its nice to see you have shouldered the entire burden of the ill that has infected the reptile keeping world, but I think that, aswell as your debate "style" is a shade over unnecessary.
Seriously though, tail mutilation, forced regurgitation and mass hibernaculum genocide aside, its great to see you started off your love of reptiles with Canada's natural fauna. Why you see everything wrote here, on our MASSIVE 12 page thread as directed at yourself, is pretty narcissistic....Wouldn't you agree?? All cylinders might be firing, but it seems they're going at off at the same time, in the same direction... Catch my drift??
What I think you aren't quite getting, is that we were never under the impression that we WEREN'T supposed to have one big thread... Historically, it's kind of what we do. Also, at just under 5300 views, this is one of the most viewed threads here... If allowed to grow, what is the true harm??? See, I for one only have a rudimentary knowledge when it comes to French. It's probably a pretty safe bet that most of English speaking Canadians are the same... Whereas there is most likely a much higher ratio of French speaking Canadians that are fluent if not proficient in both of our national languages. It makes it hard to justify the handful of participants in this thread to stumble around starting thread after thread that receive maybe a hundred views. The content provided here should be considered gold with how in focus the pictures are and how eloquently a view is presented that is contrary to what is mainstream in a non-mainstream hobby.
You see, it's not fear of debate that anyone here is talking about leaving over. We infact welcome it. But you cant debate with someone taking everything personally and jumping up and down calling everyone else a child. That would be like trying to keep a straight face after watching a monkey eat its own vomit from its hand...
So if the big ol' banning hammer isn't being pulled out, and the gavel hasn't hit the sound block, then how's about you regroup and conduct yourself at the same adult level we all are striving to maintain. Or not. It's your website afterall........

Post Scriptum : Gina, another moose for me and Mr. Davidson, I haven't seen him around lately....

[AlexG11 0]

Stav pourquoi dois tu être si fermé d'esprit....je te suis pas pentoute......
I'm sorry guys to read all this I though we could of all enjoy this VIP lounge and have a great time until not long ago.....I really though this site had a little something different.... but I wonder how I got proved wrong.. ....I havent been coming much here lately and I'm pretty disapointed to see how it turned down... some people just cant be wrong eh.....
anyway I hope it wont end like that!... In the worse case dont need to bother paying attention... might work seen some parents ignoring those ''give me attention'' childs.... and at some point the kid stop bothering....not that I suggest that as a way to raise a child but it could work in an other kind of situation eh.... anyway I was kinda waiting for something like that to happen at some point...but you know...4 people own this forum it aint some one man thing



PS Wiskey for everybody! Gina make them doubles!! PLEASE


Alex

[Nir 0]

That is a very well civilized answer Mr rancor!

People have to understand that while debating and having different views is definately something informative and necassary in some point, it as to be done in respect...

It would be regretful if the lounge didn't exist anymore... hehe

I tend to avoid heated arguments cause I find they mostly lead to nowhere (most of the time)...

As for this. I must agree that using words like morphs whore isn't the best way to speak about someone... It somewhat lacks a bit of respect...

And I believe there is no real problem about a thread getting longer... It's actually one of the best way to have good subjects talked about I believe... One thing leads to another and lots of subject are convered... It's great... Had a sprinkle of humour and a huge sprinkle of good pictures and you have a great thread...

ps. Like we say in french: "si le chapeau te fait, met le!" traduction: "if the hat fits, wear it"
pss. Gina, I'll have a couple Mooseheads! And a couple rounds for everyone to cool down...

[D. Pogue 0]

Stav a écrit:

Forgot .......if someone is too lasy to go read on the reptiles canada english forum my views on the whole subject and more , go on your msn's and ask a Guy that knows me like Justin or Nir or whoever else on how much i like money or think about money with my snakes ...... before again judjing people you dont know and have no clue what you talk about .....

I really have absolutely no idea of why this individual feels that the entire contents of this about-to-be-defunct Thread were in any way about him personally. I can guarantee everyone reading these words that Mr. Stav's name has never come up on the Thread, nor in any of my private conversations with Lounge Members about the deplorable state of today's Reptile Hobby. Sorry, son........we really don't even know your name......certainly none of us hold you personally responsible for the awful mess that The Hobby is currently in.

How can anyone attempt an intelligent discourse with someone when that person, who has his finger on the button, feels that the entire planet revolves around HIM???

Funny.......I just realized that this individual is the only "Site Authority" who has been completely absent from the proceedings here until today........proceedings that started many months ago.......when all of us were invited here because of our controversial and admittedly vehemently defended views.

No-one here attacked any person as an individual, apart from valued member "beekeeper" whom Mr. Stav just quoted on another Thread. What many of us did was dare to question the current trends in what used to be a very good hobby, when concepts like "Natural Selection" and "respect for nature" weren't the sorts of things that put one one the margins of The Hobby. Why then would anyone feel that he was being singled out, and then feel the need, not to state his opinion here........but to lash out at the folks who are legitimately, genuinely fearful for what this Reptile Hobby is becoming??

If you have any real hope of holding your own in a debate with most of us here, Mr. Stav, you should really try to do better than comparing my writing and photography to the indecipherable nonsense of "MSN". Really.

I can certainly see how some people would be displeased with the contents of this Thread, just as the people who went to jail were angered by the recent best-seller book on the reptile trade by Bryan Christy. What I don't understand is why those who reject the views contained here don't simply explain why crossing two species is such a good idea........and then explain why producing nothing but genetically inferior animals is such a good idea.......and then explain why you think it's so great that most of us can barely find an un-modified or non-morph reptile at any "expo". Instead of shrieking hysterically about who you are, why don't you argue coherently against the views most of us have expressed here?? You haven't done that, though, Mr. Stav.

What you have done is tried to make yourself and your "position" on this site the focus of attention.........with a tremendous number of garbled, unfocused posts that may actually represent your views more accurately than you would wish.

Someone here has exhibited some classic "narcissisitic tendencies"...........but I don't think it's any of "us".........

Regards,
D.

ps - Even though this Thread was never intended to be about you, Mr. Stav, it has now sadly become about nothing else. What a shame.

pps - Sorry to be the one to point this out, but when you favourably quoted our friend "beekeeper", well, you missed the mark, sir. By about twenty years. Breeding nothing but mutant snakes by recipe for a mere ten years really doesn't make anyone a "pioneer" of anything but marketing........and deformity propagation.........You'd best get yourself some historical perspective as well before you start awarding "pioneer status" like you're handing out Mr. Freezes to a spoiled, petulant child.

ppps - Since things have picked up a little here tonight, Gina has called in some help from her room-mates Giselle and Amanda. The next two rounds are on me..........just put it on my tab........I'm good for it.........

[Stav 0]

AlexG a écrit:

Stav pourquoi dois tu être si fermé d'esprit....je te suis pas pentoute......
I'm sorry guys to read all this I though we could of all enjoy this VIP lounge and have a great time until not long ago.....I really though this site had a little something different.... but I wonder how I got proved wrong.. ....I havent been coming much here lately and I'm pretty disapointed to see how it turned down... some people just cant be wrong eh.....
anyway I hope it wont end like that!... In the worse case dont need to bother paying attention... might work seen some parents ignoring those ''give me attention'' childs.... and at some point the kid stop bothering....not that I suggest that as a way to raise a child but it could work in an other kind of situation eh.... anyway I was kinda waiting for something like that to happen at some point...but you know...4 people own this forum it aint some one man thing



PS Wiskey for everybody! Gina make them doubles!! PLEASE


Alex

lol Moi fermé d'esprit ??? qu'ecé qui faut pas entendre ...... je me demande si toi tu te fesais traiter de pute parceque tu aime ou aime ou aime pas quelque chose ou èa cause de tes agissements ou de la facon dont tu garde tes choses ?


Yhea sure ..... i'm a kid ...... you are the first to jump on the barricades like a kid when something dosent make you happy .... please drop that ....

If you are disapointed by the forum ....... well so be it ..... you are old enough and for sure as Merc Dubois said once to others seems u didint get the meaning of this forum .



Rancor .... i just dont get it ...... people shit on other people because opinions and views differ from theirs and you guys cant take it when someone a different opinion .... I wonder who is narcissistic ....

As for how many views or how many posts a guy does ...... it passes me 100 feet above the head this means absolutely nothing and I wonder what interest the is to check how many views there is on a thread or how many posts someone has .... its a thing that comes from time to time and i just dont understand the interest of checking this ......

And if it interests you .... it took me at least 30 views to try and understand "some" of the stuff on this thread because everything is going into a 100 directions .... so it tells you how revelant " numbers , views " id worth ....


I also dont understand whats the problem of separating a thread that touches many subjects into other simpler subjects so that its easyer to understand or search ..... sorry


As if I see anything directed to me .... go read the other thread it will answer your questionning ....

[rancor_ 0]

Stav a écrit:

Rancor .... i just dont get it ...... people shit on other people because opinions and views differ from theirs and you guys cant take it when someone a different opinion .... I wonder who is narcissistic ....

Well, there is a couple things wrong with that statement. Its HARDLY us not being able to take someone else's differing opinion. Do you truly feel that after a 3 month conversation that has been going on here, you stumble across this thread, throw up a link to one that you started, and THIS is my introduction to you, Stav, as an individual.

Stav a écrit:

First …Let me remind you that this site is not a board of inquiry like the BOI or any shitty site like this where people breath , eat and shit msn and facebook day and night with their imaginary friendships where everything is said positivly or not because a transaction went good or where people are bashed when they shouldent be or where people arent and should be …. Freedom of speach its one thing and for sure not a site like the BOI ….Neither its a free for all chaotic party here….

Forget about the rest of the post.... I've never even heard of you before, and this is your contribution to page 12 of a thread???? Forget about the rest of the ramblings in that post, this is how you communicate and attempt to debate after reading anything written here??

Oh and not to be a dick, but check out this link, it might explain something about that word you keep using....You know the one....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narcissism

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As for how many views or how many posts a guy does ...... it passes me 100 feet above the head this means absolutely nothing and I wonder what interest the is to check how many views there is on a thread or how many posts someone has .... its a thing that comes from time to time and i just dont understand the interest of checking this ......

The amount of views something that takes time and effort to craft and create is the difference between continuing to put in the effort to post something publicly, or writing it in notepad and reading it when I need a smile... Or keeping the pictures saved on my hard drive... I could, however, care less about the amount of posts a user has. Most people with an exorbitant number of posts don't contribute proportionate amounts of substance and value. Not always, but usually.

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I also dont understand whats the problem of separating a thread that touches many subjects into other simpler subjects so that its easyer to understand or search ..... sorry

This is where we were invited, this is where we congregate and this is where we are sharing. Why is there such a desire for you to chop up threads?? It grows, evolves, changes direction and gets participated in. New people pop up, such as yourself, and it goes in a brand new, unexplored direction. Seems like a great read for someone a year later and stumbles apon a massive thread filled with a handful of crazys that think differently than most of what they've heard thus far....

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As if I see anything directed to me .... go read the other thread it will answer your questionning ....

Hopefully, we will soon be done with the focus ON you (see above link) and carry on with your participation in the lounge. Unlike the BeeKeeper, you will probably be able to add some relevance to the conversation. Take a seat here in the lounge, all are always welcome where ever it gets moved to . An opposing view is always welcome too, but let me do one more quote.... Just for fun.

4 a écrit:

Well thought out counterpoints are more effective and contribute more positively to the community.

Post scriptum : I really do hate doing pull apart posts....
PPS : Gina, if the tabs on Mr. P, one more for the road..........

[Stav 0]

humm for a guy that said was leaving ......

D. Pogue a écrit:

Stav a écrit:

Forgot .......if someone is too lasy to go read on the reptiles canada english forum my views on the whole subject and more , go on your msn's and ask a Guy that knows me like Justin or Nir or whoever else on how much i like money or think about money with my snakes ...... before again judjing people you dont know and have no clue what you talk about .....

I really have absolutely no idea of why this individual feels that the entire contents of this about-to-be-defunct Thread were in any way about him personally. I can guarantee everyone reading these words that Mr. Stav's name has never come up on the Thread, nor in any of my private conversations with Lounge Members about the deplorable state of today's Reptile Hobby. Sorry, son........we really don't even know your name......certainly none of us hold you personally responsible for the awful mess that The Hobby is currently in.

If you have no clue go on the other thread and read that not take anything personnally other that putting everyboy and the whole hobby in one bag and saying they are whores or think of money well sorry iÙ'm concerned as well ...... if you cant understand well sorry i cant explain it better ..... and as i said the things i can talk asbout is about me and not anyone else ..... Dont know my name ??? man make me laugh ..... if you was not as self centered by what i see here .... i dont go under a nickname ....

Private conversations with lounge members ? What the heck this has to do with what I say or do ?? are in somekind of paranoia state Mr.Pogue ? By the way are free to talk to whoever you want and I dont have msn sorry

D. Pogue a écrit:

How can anyone attempt an intelligent discourse with someone when that person, who has his finger on the button, feels that the entire planet revolves around HIM???

Funny.......I just realized that this individual is the only "Site Authority" who has been completely absent from the proceedings here until today........proceedings that started many months ago.......when all of us were invited here because of our controversial and admittedly vehemently defended views.

No you are right .... nobody can attempt an intelligent discourse ..... and nobody here thinks anything about the whole planet .... what is it ? you dont have any real points to make and throw the discussion from side to side to pointeless areas ? ..... Are you that much self centered that there is no discernement in you mind ? You know what .... at first when I red you replies in this thread .... I thought you was joking on many aspects in your posts ..... now .... a whole new view of you comes to me when i read your name .....

And for the other part of the text ...... yeap this individual wasent here for lots of time because of reasons that are not of businness ( by the way another narcissistic view on somewthing you dont understand or know about another judgement here typical of the others made previously .... ) and I cant talk for others but I can say to you that least one told me he didint have the time to spend arguing in a thread like this .... so again dont assume anything .... dont worry if I could I would have came way earlier and express myself Mr. Assuming ....

D. Pogue a écrit:

No-one here attacked any person as an individual, apart from valued member "beekeeper" whom Mr. Stav just quoted on another Thread. What many of us did was dare to question the current trends in what used to be a very good hobby, when concepts like "Natural Selection" and "respect for nature" weren't the sorts of things that put one one the margins of The Hobby. Why then would anyone feel that he was being singled out, and then feel the need, not to state his opinion here........but to lash out at the folks who are legitimately, genuinely fearful for what this Reptile Hobby is becoming??

Yeap the posts of beekeeper is worthless just like genereralizing as you do and condemn people without even knowing them .... do you understand My english .... i,.ll explain it to you in person if you want if we cross paths , i dont hide behind a keeboard and can greatly express my view in person and also wont tell you youre not in the field by generalizing everything .....

D. Pogue a écrit:

If you have any real hope of holding your own in a debate with most of us here, Mr. Stav, you should really try to do better than comparing my writing and photography to the indecipherable nonsense of "MSN". Really.

Man are you serious ? hope of holding my own with most of you ? ...... how do you prtray and think about yourselfs ? ..... Is some kind of Napoleonic army where everyone sticks together to do whatever ? .... welcome adolescent crisis ...... sorry when I speak i speak by my own and on my own ..... I dont need Napoleon and his armys to debate or speak my views ....... man do you really think like that ?

read everything i wrote again and again you might catch the meaning of i spoke about .... lol " I like the ..... holding the debate with most of us " ....

D. Pogue a écrit:

I can certainly see how some people would be displeased with the contents of this Thread, just as the people who went to jail were angered by the recent best-seller book on the reptile trade by Bryan Christy. What I don't understand is why those who reject the views contained here don't simply explain why crossing two species is such a good idea........and then explain why producing nothing but genetically inferior animals is such a good idea.......and then explain why you think it's so great that most of us can barely find an un-modified or non-morph reptile at any "expo". Instead of shrieking hysterically about who you are, why don't you argue coherently against the views most of us have expressed here?? You haven't done that, though, Mr. Stav.

Man ..... you really talk stuff at large right ? reject view contained here ? man do i have to rewrite a hundred times about this ?
If you would read my stuff i already writen on subjects like this that come often you would probably see my views on that .... again I invite you to start a new thread on the subject , and it willl be a pleasure to participate in your inbreeding reptiles and all what comes with it ..... this said again it will be easier this way for all ........ But hey it seems that you dont really care about the ability of french people going thrue a 100 directions thread .... again me my self and my litle I .... [/quote]

D. Pogue a écrit:

What you have done is tried to make yourself and your "position" on this site the focus of attention.........with a tremendous number of garbled, unfocused posts that may actually represent your views more accurately than you would wish.

Yep sure .... if you say it its because its true ....... How come a guy thinks of talking about of focus of attention ..... humm to bad it never crossed my mind ...... what is it that you dont like ? Is it because that someone said other things than you own view ???

D. Pogue a écrit:

Someone here has exhibited some classic "narcissisitic tendencies"...........but I don't think it's any of "us".........

Regards,
D.

Any of us ? ...... may I speak to Mr. Napoleon and not his army when I reply to a post ?? What is it you cant speak for yourself ?

D. Pogue a écrit:

ps - Even though this Thread was never intended to be about you, Mr. Stav, it has now sadly become about nothing else. What a shame.

Yep what a big shame ...... deception only deception .... what not hear ... yep what a shame ..... one speaks and some cant respect its views on a thread .... what a big shame

D. Pogue a écrit:

pps - Sorry to be the one to point this out, but when you favourably quoted our friend "beekeeper", well, you missed the mark, sir. By about twenty years. Breeding nothing but mutant snakes by recipe for a mere ten years really doesn't make anyone a "pioneer" of anything but marketing........and deformity propagation.........You'd best get yourself some historical perspective as well before you start awarding "pioneer status" like you're handing out Mr. Freezes to a spoiled, petulant child.

Sorry Boy .... in my book someone that has a passion ....... that likes it enough to make it his way of living ....... being the first in canada to do it as a job ....... In my book is a pioneer ...... no matter his name , or sex ........ and this even if you like it or not ..... but again I dont really know why I write on this ...... your views ok ...... the rest is bullshit ..... and you cant digest what others do or dont do

ppps - Since things have picked up a little here tonight, Gina has called in some help from her room-mates Giselle and Amanda. The next two rounds are on me..........just put it on my tab........I'm good for it......... [/quote]


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rancor_ a écrit:

Stav a écrit:

Rancor .... i just dont get it ...... people shit on other people because opinions and views differ from theirs and you guys cant take it when someone a different opinion .... I wonder who is narcissistic ....

Well, there is a couple things wrong with that statement. Its HARDLY us not being able to take someone else's differing opinion. Do you truly feel that after a 3 month conversation that has been going on here, you stumble across this thread, throw up a link to one that you started, and THIS is my introduction to you, Stav, as an individual.

well sorry to dispoint you...... but thats how i'm made and here its not a popularity contest forum .... I hate judgements made on people sorry i dont tolerate them . If someone is a psychotic compulsive "screwer" in this hoby or fucks people in the hobby with proof like some years back in the states i cant remeber his name then blame what has to be blamed on him ...... If you would read french you would see how many times i've talked about the mighty $$ in this hobby , my view are the same as many things said in here and i,m not afffraid to speak it out loud ......... so someone that categorizes every body in this hobby as money makers or shitty morph breeders , or whores ..... well sorry It concerns me because I do breed morphs and not morphs and its not to anyones to judge me or whoever else .....

rancor_ a écrit:

Stav a écrit:

First …Let me remind you that this site is not a board of inquiry like the BOI or any shitty site like this where people breath , eat and shit msn and facebook day and night with their imaginary friendships where everything is said positivly or not because a transaction went good or where people are bashed when they shouldent be or where people arent and should be …. Freedom of speach its one thing and for sure not a site like the BOI ….Neither its a free for all chaotic party here….

Forget about the rest of the post.... I've never even heard of you before, and this is your contribution to page 12 of a thread???? Forget about the rest of the ramblings in that post, this is how you communicate and attempt to debate after reading anything written here??

Yep absolutely , again sorry if it seems arrogant to you but treat people as whores as it has been made here in this thread ( again for Mr.pogue its not perssonaly attacked but i'm still part of the hobby and breed some morphs so it concerns me as well ... ) what would someone expect ? These are false statements just like people in adolescent crisis who will to say to someone like duff that his stuff is worthless or is been judged on stuff that he shouldent be judged ...... i dont know if you understand this one .... if not i'll try more ....

rancor_ a écrit:

Oh and not to be a dick, but check out this link, it might explain something about that word you keep using....You know the one....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narcissism

I invite you to check the time of my last post and this one and you'll see how much time it takes me to write stuff in english ..... you know what ? maybe you should try writing a text in french and go thrue the same process I go thrue evrytime i write in english .... One thing is for sure I would never judge you on your efforts on writing in french .....

Citation :

As for how many views or how many posts a guy does ...... it passes me 100 feet above the head this means absolutely nothing and I wonder what interest the is to check how many views there is on a thread or how many posts someone has .... its a thing that comes from time to time and i just dont understand the interest of checking this ......

rancor_ a écrit:

The amount of views something that takes time and effort to craft and create is the difference between continuing to put in the effort to post something publicly, or writing it in notepad and reading it when I need a smile... Or keeping the pictures saved on my hard drive... I could, however, care less about the amount of posts a user has. Most people with an exorbitant number of posts don't contribute proportionate amounts of substance and value. Not always, but usually.

Well .....see for me I never checked the views or anything else and it never dictates me on how much info i'll give , or help , or the amount of time spent helping ..... to me I put the effort in this hobby anyways and not only in forums but in real life but real actions . You Know what ? when I go to sleep at night I feel good if i helped not only in the hobby but life generaly ....

Again judgement on people with exorbitant number of posts ...... Is there something that you dont judge ? I mean would you judge lets say a chubby girl or an ugly one by your standards ? would you categorize her as a whore or somekind of sub-woman because she wouldent fit your standards ?

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I also dont understand whats the problem of separating a thread that touches many subjects into other simpler subjects so that its easyer to understand or search ..... sorry

rancor_ a écrit:

This is where we were invited, this is where we congregate and this is where we are sharing. Why is there such a desire for you to chop up threads?? It grows, evolves, changes direction and gets participated in. New people pop up, such as yourself, and it goes in a brand new, unexplored direction. Seems like a great read for someone a year later and stumbles apon a massive thread filled with a handful of crazys that think differently than most of what they've heard thus far....

Sorry to inform you but you are not the only ones here , there is plenty of people and its not the first time neither the last time we split or assemble same subject threads so that its easier for everyone to read and also search, being invited here dosent give you any special writes and this no matter your names ..... and for sure it will not change so if someone dosent like something about this site ..... start your own one and run it as you wish .... now is it ok ? As for a bunch that think differently .... I dont think so I have personnally some same views on some subjects .... I cant speak for others again ...

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As if I see anything directed to me .... go read the other thread it will answer your questionning ....

rancor_ a écrit:

Hopefully, we will soon be done with the focus ON you (see above link) and carry on with your participation in the lounge. Unlike the BeeKeeper, you will probably be able to add some relevance to the conversation. Take a seat here in the lounge, all are always welcome where ever it gets moved to . An opposing view is always welcome too, but let me do one more quote.... Just for fun.

4 a écrit:

Well thought out counterpoints are more effective and contribute more positively to the community.

Again .... "we" ..... focus on me ? these type of things along with numbers of hits a thread has seems to be very important .... are some of you seeking some king of status ? recognition or something like that ? With all the importance put on those two things it makes someone wonder .....

rancor_ a écrit:

Post scriptum : I really do hate doing pull apart posts....

Well what can I say this other than this is how it is , deal with it or start your own forum and run it as you wish .....
PPS : Gina, if the tabs on Mr. P, one more for the road..........

[D. Pogue 0]

After being virtually unknown to most of us here in The Lounge, Mr. Stav has spent today issuing a veritable flurry of rather, shall we say, unfocused posts. I suppose for some fanboys who may have followed his earlier material on the site, these new posts may be of some humour value.

For the rest of us, though, we're left wondering why Mr. Stav has chosen to express himself with such unrestrained and petulant fury here. Never mind the hilariously ironic overuse of the term "narcissistic" by Mr. Stav, he has chosen to lauch several vicious, petty personal attacks on long-time site members "AlexG" and "Bistrobob85" on another "companion" Thread of his own creation here on Repticlic. Both Alex and Phil are very good herpers, and both would be welcomed here in my home. Even if I disagreed with one of them on a particular subject, I would never use my position as a Vebsyte Boss to name and publicly attack/humiliate them. That sort of garbage has no place on any reptile forum in my opinion. These clearly personal grievances, aired right out in public, are exactly why so may credible Reptile People avoid ALL reptile forums..........including, now, this one.

I thought that people were welcome to discuss contentious topics here without fear of reprisal.....or of petty self-serving intervention by those in authority. But it wasn't to be. We've seen ample proof of that today. Mr. Stav is apparently unable to make the distinction between "attacking a concept"/"attacking a viewpoint" and attacking an identifiable person. Like he just did with our good friends Alex and Phil, for example. It's not a nuanced argument here. In my opinion, what Mr. Stav has done here today is far more damaging to this site, AND to his own credibility, than it is to the views and positions stated here in this Thread.

There is a major difference between an attack by the likes of the still-anonymous "beekeeper" and the drivel put forth here today by one of the owners of this site. It should be obvious, even to an investor.

Regards,
D.

ps - It's not a "language problem" Mr. Stav. I think everyone here truly does understand what you are saying. And what you have done here.

pps - "OOPS....he did it again"

ppps - "Point-by-point-by-point-answering".......The least effective possible debating style.......embarrassing, really.........but please, do continue amongst yourself...........

[Superman811 0]

That Will Be Enough !!! Please Everyone this exercise is foolish . This is suppose to be a Forum to give Opinion Not to Judge other's opinion . Opinions are undebatable , it's your own conception of the stuff , sure not erveybody has the same but that's what makes it nice about it . Please Again get Along cause you don't want to see another stupidely boring forum . So be fair ( not nice ) but FAIR ,respect others opinion . Who cares If it looks like msn or Any others damn conversation thing , If your Only Opinion is : DAmn Its Nice , I love it man . Why can't you write it. A Forum is not just a informative thing Its made for people to share Info and for those of you who have a problem with each others ( I doo Include Everyone Even the one I Know personnaly ) Just leave us alone with that and do this Somewhere else . This Forum Is Nice and Super Informative and really friendly , Until we have a Nice little Thread that ends like this one his doin right Now .

P.S. You're Lucky I'm Not the real Superman

[Stav 0]

D. Pogue a écrit:

After being virtually unknown to most of us here in The Lounge, Mr. Stav has spent today issuing a veritable flurry of rather, shall we say, unfocused posts. I suppose for some fanboys who may have followed his earlier material on the site, these new posts may be of some humour value.

For the rest of us, though, we're left wondering why Mr. Stav has chosen to express himself with such unrestrained and petulant fury here. Never mind the hilariously ironic overuse of the term "narcissistic" by Mr. Stav, he has chosen to lauch several vicious, petty personal attacks on long-time site members "AlexG" and "Bistrobob85" on another "companion" Thread of his own creation here on Repticlic. Both Alex and Phil are very good herpers, and both would be welcomed here in my home. Even if I disagreed with one of them on a particular subject, I would never use my position as a Vebsyte Boss to name and publicly attack/humiliate them. That sort of garbage has no place on any reptile forum in my opinion. These clearly personal grievances, aired right out in public, are exactly why so may credible Reptile People avoid ALL reptile forums..........including, now, this one.

I thought that people were welcome to discuss contentious topics here without fear of reprisal.....or of petty self-serving intervention by those in authority. But it wasn't to be. We've seen ample proof of that today. Mr. Stav is apparently unable to make the distinction between "attacking a concept"/"attacking a viewpoint" and attacking an identifiable person. Like he just did with our good friends Alex and Phil, for example. It's not a nuanced argument here. In my opinion, what Mr. Stav has done here today is far more damaging to this site, AND to his own credibility, than it is to the views and positions stated here in this Thread.

There is a major difference between an attack by the likes of the still-anonymous "beekeeper" and the drivel put forth here today by one of the owners of this site. It should be obvious, even to an investor.

Regards,
D.

ps - It's not a "language problem" Mr. Stav. I think everyone here truly does understand what you are saying. And what you have done here.

pps - "OOPS....he did it again"

ppps - "Point-by-point-by-point-answering".......The least effective possible debating style.......embarrassing, really.........but please, do continue amongst yourself...........

lol I cant believe all this crap .... man do you really beleive yourself when you speak this way ? I suggest you re-read your posts and views . I invite you to read some directed thread and judgements mr Bistro started and direct attacks or responded in french since you seem to speak french full of jujdments on others .....let me tell you something ......its not the first we talk about all this in person and my views and says are the same as in here so mind your own business my friend ........ and the way i respond is really not of your business when you dont even know what you are talking about or what hapenned or didint happenned.... and personnally when someone says black when it fits him and white when it dosent its called pure hypocrisim..... just like i see with these texes here ......Man I cant beleive this ..... no attacks in alexes thread as well ? You really read and understand what you wanna read and understand hey Mr. pogue ?

Nope I dont need fans and hypocrisim no thanks . Practice what you preach is what i practice .... even if you like it or not ....

D. Pogue a écrit:

Even if I disagreed with one of them on a particular subject, I would never use my position as a Vebsyte Boss to name and publicly attack/humiliate them.

Yhea for sure you will hide behind your Napoleonistic Army to say so ......or make 100 detours ? man make me laugh .... did you really wrote "use my position - boss " ????? do you really throw importance on positions here or elsewhere ??? Do you really hear yourself write ? Hummm what a credibility .... treating everybody in this hobby that breeds morphs as shit but dont take it when someone replies by his speach .....

3 up Mr. Pogue

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It's not a "language problem" Mr. Stav. I think everyone here truly does understand what you are saying. And what you have done here.

Hooo my god what did i done ..... nothing more than what i usuallt do ..... and as you say in the begining .... yep i'm very humoristic especially when i see people criticize but cant take the critic themselfs ......

[D. Pogue 0]

Out of respect for the people who actually invited me here, I will not respond any further to the barely-coherent juvenilia being spouted by someone who should really know better.

Your Hobby Is Doomed.

Regards,
DP

ps - Last one out the door, please get the lights. The rent is paid up until the end of the month, but after that I hear this place becomes a Wal-Mart. Or was that a McDonald's? Let's all raise a cheer for cookie-cutter lock-step style.

pps - "Pathological Conformity Is Kewl!!"

ppps - "He's the boss, folks. You can't fight City Hall."

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Stav a écrit:

lol I cant believe all this crap .... man do you really beleive yourself when you speak this way ? I suggest you re-read your posts and views . I invite you to read some directed thread and judgements mr Bistro started and direct attacks or responded in french since you seem to speak french full of jujdments on others .....

Hm, i'd just like a rectification on the fact that i never meant to attack anybody personnally, and that i know i do have very sharp opinions on some subject and might seem hard to some people. I could spend hours and hours arguing with you, Stav, but after trying for a while, i concluded that you had more freetime than i had for such debates and since i dont have any interest in convincing anybody here, i'll just let you go on with your typical point-by-point pages-long posts.

I can understand that you can invest so much time in such conversations, maybe for a matter of image, i believe. I always seem to regret those debates because for some reason, they always end up on jumpy personnal attacks from your part. I dont understand why you feel attacked and you have to defend yourself that way, but i dont really care.

You have your forum, breed your boas, think what you think. We will do what we think is right and best, and we could probably all spare ourselves the jumpy and personnal never-ending point-by-point debate that you're so found of.

Seriously, having an argument with you has not proved yet either pleasant or constructive, this ones proves it too. Let's keep this thread about colubrids and feel free to join us and share your own experience with them here, that was the original point of the thread. We will all feel happier about it and so will you.

phil.

[Stav 0]

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Stav a écrit:

lol I cant believe all this crap .... man do you really beleive yourself when you speak this way ? I suggest you re-read your posts and views . I invite you to read some directed thread and judgements mr Bistro started and direct attacks or responded in french since you seem to speak french full of jujdments on others .....

Hm, i'd just like a rectification on the fact that i never meant to attack anybody personnally, and that i know i do have very sharp opinions on some subject and might seem hard to some people. I could spend hours and hours arguing with you, Stav, but after trying for a while, i concluded that you had more freetime than i had for such debates and since i dont have any interest in convincing anybody here, i'll just let you go on with your typical point-by-point pages-long posts.

I can understand that you can invest so much time in such conversations, maybe for a matter of image, i believe. I always seem to regret those debates because for some reason, they always end up on jumpy personnal attacks from your part. I dont understand why you feel attacked and you have to defend yourself that way, but i dont really care.

You have your forum, breed your boas, think what you think. We will do what we think is right and best, and we could probably all spare ourselves the jumpy and personnal never-ending point-by-point debate that you're so found of.

Seriously, having an argument with you has not proved yet either pleasant or constructive, this ones proves it too. Let's keep this thread about colubrids and feel free to join us and share your own experience with them here, that was the original point of the thread. We will all feel happier about it and so will you.

phil.

yhea yhea Phil say what ever you want your views and disrespect of people are writen in your other posts .... continue selling your scholopandras that escape in peoples homes until a baby or a child is bitten and then as pogue says our hobby will really be doomed ......

[bistrobob85111 0]

Hahahaha, and you can keep selling boas until someone gets bit in the eye and then the hobby will really be doomed.

phil.

[Stav 0]

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Hahahaha, and you can keep selling boas until someone gets bit in the eye and then the hobby will really be doomed.

phil.

exactly , and corns as a matter of fact as i said many times any reptile should be monitored not only by its owner but with permit just like there is in France the legislation and the courses a bit like fishing permits or hunting permits with courses ......... the only difference is that I dont hide in double standards that fit me when I need them to fit

[stevie 0]

Stav,Stav Stav,I don't know why you choose to follow your shepperd like a sheep in single line,"Com'on all back to the stall now". I'm very dissappointed in your comments and even more dissappointed in the way some have been treated on the thread.As for saying that we don't know you,well i guess you can't say that for me,cause i know you.What happened to freedom of speech?What happened to expressing your opinions?What good is putting up a site,if one is going to get bashed around.Like i have mentioned several times before on many sites,this Industry so called crap of a hobby,is going to get served one day with a big slap on the face.Time to wake up you sheep,cause some shepperd will be eating all your wool of your back,but thats ok because when it will choke we as revolutionaires will be there to collect it .Ils faut que je te dit ca en francais Stav,Je suis tres ,tres mecontent de tes remarque et de tes attaque sur certaine personne denierement.For the child part,well your last post you wrote i wonder who is the child? .

[stevie 0]

All i can say is,''''''

[stevie 0]

And for all you Industrialists out there,this is for you..



.....and if you don't like my opinion or thought on this,well i really dont give a rats arse.Time to salut to all the real troopers out there who really care about this hobby.And for the rest of you's well got out in sit on your porch with your Mr.Freeze...

[stevie 0]

stevie a écrit:

And for all you Industrialists out there,this is for you..



.....and if you don't like my opinion or thought on this,well i really dont give a rats arse.Time to salute to all the real troopers out there who really care about this hobby.And for the rest of you's well got out in sit on your porch with your Mr.Freeze...

[Nir 0]

I'm not happy to have to resort to such mean and undiscriminate method to bring back calm and order in the lounge, but it seems like nothins else will work...







ps. wrong kind of bunny
pss. Gina looks good!

[Stav 0]

stevie a écrit:

Stav,Stav Stav,I don't know why you choose to follow your shepperd like a sheep in single line,"Com'on all back to the stall now". I'm very dissappointed in your comments and even more dissappointed in the way some have been treated on the thread.As for saying that we don't know you,well i guess you can't say that for me,cause i know you.What happened to freedom of speech?What happened to expressing your opinions?What good is putting up a site,if one is going to get bashed around.Like i have mentioned several times before on many sites,this Industry so called crap of a hobby,is going to get served one day with a big slap on the face.Time to wake up you sheep,cause some shepperd will be eating all your wool of your back,but thats ok because when it will choke we as revolutionaires will be there to collect it .Ils faut que je te dit ca en francais Stav,Je suis tres ,tres mecontent de tes remarque et de tes attaque sur certaine personne denierement.For the child part,well your last post you wrote i wonder who is the child? .

Stevie Stevie Stevie ...... you words are very funny ...... those who speak about freedom of speach but cant swallow that same freedom of speach of others offcourse this even if no one did abything to freedom of speach

See thats what is all about ...... you nailed it

hummm what is it ? is it one way freedom of speach and to hell the other way ?

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we as revolutionaires will be there to collect it

I love that self proclaimed title ...... does it give you some kind of status in your head or something ? If yes well its very fine with me

"Revolutionnaires" ..... makes me think that its a really nice title for a forum ..... maybe you should think about it and start it with principal rule ..... " Freedom one way speach .... those who have another way speach please shut-up " .....

[JSI 0]

............it's like I stumbled on a huge multicar pile up, bodies lying everywhere.

It’s quiet now, peace has been restored, all the world will sleep at night knowing Mr.Crossman and Mr. Woods are the pioneers of the reptile hobby in Canada...............

that is the truth isn’t it????

Cheers, it was fun while it lasted.

Jeremy


P.S. You’ve won, sit back and enjoy yourself, you’ve earned it.
P.S.S. Really you won a long time ago, this was just one last futile attempt to be heard.
P.S.S.S. Which one of you wears the skirt?

[Manu-superiorgeckos 0]

JSI a écrit:

............it's like I stumbled on a huge multicar pile up, bodies lying everywhere.

It’s quiet now, peace has been restored, all the world will sleep at night knowing Mr.Crossman and Mr. Woods are the pioneers of the reptile hobby in Canada...............

that is the truth isn’t it????

Cheers, it was fun while it lasted.

Jeremy


P.S. You’ve won, sit back and enjoy yourself, you’ve earned it.
P.S.S. Really you won a long time ago, this was just one last futile attempt to be heard.
P.S.S.S. Which one of you wears the skirt?

Untill now i've had restrained myself from answering some comments that where made here in the Lounge...BUT with this last remark Mr. JSI i cant understand why you always need to go back in time and serve us the same lame meal all the time...What interest do you have other than a personnal little war with ''another forum'' because they didint want some of you there anymore...Dont you think that instead of comming here and trow jabs and uppercuts twards certain people in your remarks that you made (You = all thoses concerned) in this tread, you would of JUST put in the interesting contents that made me interested in reading most of the stuff that was posted here, it would of been a Win/Win situation...but with lame remarks like the last one you and some of you did and gowing back on this tread, i must say that the interest of reading you gave up on me. It is realy to bad because most of the content is a good slap in the face, and makes people realy question themselves on certain aspect of the ''Hoby'', but does it realy need to be ignited with all the ''hidden/sacastic'' personnal attack??? I think not.

Now you will defend on the fact that it's all said in jokes and all..but the bottom line is that you want a message to be delivered to certain people on that ''other forum'' as you say, and you use THIS forum as a meduim/platform to do so...and THAT is a lack of respect for US and members in my mind!

I have no problem in you posting your views and opinions on whatever subjets you desire, but keep other forums and querels that have nothing to do with this forum out of it...I think that is legit no?

Anyway sorry for my poor English, dont have much opportuneties to use it!!!

PS: Gina the beer tastes flat, it's time to change the Keg.......
PSS: lets all go take some fresh air.............

[Stav 0]

JSI a écrit:

............it's like I stumbled on a huge multicar pile up, bodies lying everywhere.

It’s quiet now, peace has been restored, all the world will sleep at night knowing Mr.Crossman and Mr. Woods are the pioneers of the reptile hobby in Canada...............

that is the truth isn’t it????

Cheers, it was fun while it lasted.

Jeremy


P.S. You’ve won, sit back and enjoy yourself, you’ve earned it.
P.S.S. Really you won a long time ago, this was just one last futile attempt to be heard.
P.S.S.S. Which one of you wears the skirt?

again some pathetic me myself and my litle I that dosent take critic and assumes everything in its own pathetic way .....


way to go it shows what kind of judgement you have ..... good thing to judje others as well

[bistrobob85111 0]

Haha, nice pic, Nic . I really like Stevie's second one!!!!

Did i read somewhere that this post was about colubrids? On another tone, is there anyone in Canada who is keeping P.gloydi? I know that they are locally endangered in Ontario and are not legal there but does anyone keep them elsewhere?

phil.

[Nir 0]

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Haha, nice pic, Nic . I really like Stevie's second one!!!!

Did i read somewhere that this post was about colubrids? On another tone, is there anyone in Canada who is keeping P.gloydi? I know that they are locally endangered in Ontario and are not legal there but does anyone keep them elsewhere?

phil.

Theoretically, it's now M. gloydi as in Mintonius gloydi....

[cowboy xav 0]

was it Elaphe vupina gloydi one time?

[bistrobob85111 0]

Nir a écrit:

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Haha, nice pic, Nic . I really like Stevie's second one!!!!

Did i read somewhere that this post was about colubrids? On another tone, is there anyone in Canada who is keeping P.gloydi? I know that they are locally endangered in Ontario and are not legal there but does anyone keep them elsewhere?

phil.

Theoretically, it's now M. gloydi as in Mintonius gloydi....

You're right, Stevie. It seems like it has been recognized by the Center for North American Herpetology, i love these guys .

http://www.naherpetology.org/detail.asp?id=126

phil.

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bistrobob85 a écrit:

Nir a écrit:

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Haha, nice pic, Nic . I really like Stevie's second one!!!!

Did i read somewhere that this post was about colubrids? On another tone, is there anyone in Canada who is keeping P.gloydi? I know that they are locally endangered in Ontario and are not legal there but does anyone keep them elsewhere?

phil.

Theoretically, it's now M. gloydi as in Mintonius gloydi....

You're right, Stevie. It seems like it has been recognized by the Center for North American Herpetology, i love these guys .

http://www.naherpetology.org/detail.asp?id=126

phil.

My pleasure, mais j'm'appelle pas Stevie! hehe

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D. Pogue a écrit:

After being virtually unknown to most of us here in The Lounge, Mr. Stav has spent today issuing a veritable flurry of rather, shall we say, unfocused posts. I suppose for some fanboys who may have followed his earlier material on the site, these new posts may be of some humour value.

For the rest of us, though, we're left wondering why Mr. Stav has chosen to express himself with such unrestrained and petulant fury here. Never mind the hilariously ironic overuse of the term "narcissistic" by Mr. Stav, he has chosen to lauch several vicious, petty personal attacks on long-time site members "AlexG" and "Bistrobob85" on another "companion" Thread of his own creation here on Repticlic. Both Alex and Phil are very good herpers, and both would be welcomed here in my home. Even if I disagreed with one of them on a particular subject, I would never use my position as a Vebsyte Boss to name and publicly attack/humiliate them. That sort of garbage has no place on any reptile forum in my opinion. These clearly personal grievances, aired right out in public, are exactly why so may credible Reptile People avoid ALL reptile forums..........including, now, this one.

I thought that people were welcome to discuss contentious topics here without fear of reprisal.....or of petty self-serving intervention by those in authority. But it wasn't to be. We've seen ample proof of that today. Mr. Stav is apparently unable to make the distinction between "attacking a concept"/"attacking a viewpoint" and attacking an identifiable person. Like he just did with our good friends Alex and Phil, for example. It's not a nuanced argument here. In my opinion, what Mr. Stav has done here today is far more damaging to this site, AND to his own credibility, than it is to the views and positions stated here in this Thread.

There is a major difference between an attack by the likes of the still-anonymous "beekeeper" and the drivel put forth here today by one of the owners of this site. It should be obvious, even to an investor.

Regards,
D.

ps - It's not a "language problem" Mr. Stav. I think everyone here truly does understand what you are saying. And what you have done here.

pps - "OOPS....he did it again"

ppps - "Point-by-point-by-point-answering".......The least effective possible debating style.......embarrassing, really.........but please, do continue amongst yourself...........

Sorry to say Mr.Pogue ,but i think Mr.Stav is becoming a" PUPPET ON A STRING".It's not his fault it is the "MASTER PUPPETEER" who likes to manipulate Stav and control everyone to a point of making everyone else do just what he desires and if they tend not to apply to his rules then he finds a way to make sure that they do with all of his propaganda crap.Well you know what ALL YOU TRUE INDUSTRIALISTS HAVE FUN WHILE IT LASTS,CONGRADULATIONS YOU HAVE WON A BIG PRIZE ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS. STEVIE

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justin a écrit:

Gina! Could you please send Another round and the best lounge table for my invited friends.

Hey Justin,i think we are going to call it a night,so you can tell Gina to stop serving "Sherlly Temples" to the Money Hungry Morph Whores because i think they had enough....hmmmm i have the pics to prove it,please Justin judge for your self if you wish but my opinion is that they should stop drinking cause it is embarrassing to all of us in the lounge.

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Nir a écrit:

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Nir a écrit:

bistrobob85 a écrit:

Haha, nice pic, Nic . I really like Stevie's second one!!!!

Did i read somewhere that this post was about colubrids? On another tone, is there anyone in Canada who is keeping P.gloydi? I know that they are locally endangered in Ontario and are not legal there but does anyone keep them elsewhere?

phil.

Theoretically, it's now M. gloydi as in Mintonius gloydi....

You're right, Stevie. It seems like it has been recognized by the Center for North American Herpetology, i love these guys .

http://www.naherpetology.org/detail.asp?id=126

phil.

My pleasure, mais j'm'appelle pas Stevie! hehe

Oups, sorry Nic, the merit comes back to you .

Soooooo... do you guys know anyone keeping them in the Canadian hobby?

phil.

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stevie a écrit:

Sorry to say Mr.Pogue ,but i think Mr.Stav is becoming a" PUPPET ON A STRING".It's not his fault it is the "MASTER PUPPETEER" who likes to manipulate Stav and control everyone to a point of making everyone else do just what he desires and if they tend not to apply to his rules then he finds a way to make sure that they do with all of his propaganda crap.Well you know what ALL YOU TRUE INDUSTRIALISTS HAVE FUN WHILE IT LASTS,CONGRADULATIONS YOU HAVE WON A BIG PRIZE ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS. STEVIE

Make me laugh Irreprochable Cinderella


Its always amazing to see how " Hypocrite Doubled Standarded Money Making Cinderellas " regurgitate a bunch of stupidities without never looking at their own Shiny Belly Button ...... it proves the true soul of Cinderella .....everybody is a Whore except the Whore it self ....especially when irreprochable Cinderella uses and always finds the way of making money out of someones good will and innocence ......

At least when I go to sleep at night I sleep good ... I never go to sleep feeling like a wolf who profited of someones good intentions to make money out of him mostly buying and resselling his stuff twice and triple the price I got them for .... neither I go to sleep knowing that i have a double standard conscience like the " Money Wolves" who do it and pollute this hobby for the 1 $ profit they make . Basically I sleep good knowing i didint fuck anyone Cinderella... in this case one of the "Whores" .....

Good msn chat , dont you have msn ? its a good place for people to exchange their lies and hypocricies and their bedtime stories...

You know what ? I have some self respect not whoring myself ..... when I say I had enough of a board I just dont go anymore ....

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Stav i think you just won the Mr.Freeze of the year,ok now that you are a winner you can go sit on your porch and enjoy it.Have fun" MON AMI" Stevie