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Melanie, your VBB is looking very sharp indeed. Do you happen to have pics of the adults it's "down from" . I've been wondering for a while now about their color change as they "mature". As near as I can tell the majority tend to lose the yellow coloration & the blue intensifies ... but any insight you could share would be appreciated. On another note, quite a few that are floating around in the US, I'm told, have been crossed with fresei ... Spankenstyne, If I recall Dave Royans is the fellow who posted a scalaris thread on TARAS ? I love that silver adult he used to own. I would be more surprised if there had been no enthusiastic "interest" from you, Phil I think perhaps maybe quite often with these picture heavy threads some of the pictures don't get a chance to load ... It's a single male that came through a wholesaler, so I'm unsure of it's origin in terms of who bred it or locale. I'm aware of there being another 08 pair in Ontario which originated from Scott Johns in the US who produces both Spanish & French locales. No doubt, I'll be on the look out for more in the near future. I know they have been referred to as the "European Pituophis", but they are very unique in terms of behavior and morphology. I'd expand on that, but I think you will appreciate experiencing their "character" first hand [when you get some] without a preview Here's a couple of more recent pics ... ps oh, and up back there, prior to this, I meant "circular", not "conical"... what was I [not] thinking ... the cost of freedom ... hmmm pps I hear it's been requested that your talents attend a wedding, Mr, D.

Awesome pics Jeremy and ya'll, including Don Between Don's couperi photographs and recently having had the good fortune to witness & handle Ryan's Drymarchon in the "flesh", so to speak, it makes it very tough to remain focused on what I wish to keep and that which I shall continue admire from afar [in other folks basements] ... Ya make it tough ..... and then there's infenalis and tetrataenia. Who can resist those painted on black velvet works of nature ... Which reminds me, I don't know how one can "discriminate" between Boas & Pythons ... do you ? ... There's no doubt that Thamnophis are not a beginners snake. In terms of the attention needed to their diet and husbandry requirements, they probably require more time and thought than anything else I own. However they are also among the most rewarding in terms of "entertainment value" & endless fascination ... not to mention moments of wonderment ... uuum ... yup T. cyrtopsis while having a more conical cross section to begin with than other Thamnophis I currently keep, they are also far more susceptible to building up fat if given a frequent all rodentia diet. I don't have any more cyrtopsis pics at hand, but will these do ... These fellas won't turn pink, but are already exhibiting signs of the ontogenetic change to come .. which these pics are not a representation of ... ps I had a bird eating spider once, but can't say I've ever kept a pet bee pps dancing with the machine ppps shades of brown

Unfortunately, I don't, Nir. I've read "stories" on the Thamnophis forums of WC baby pickeringi just getting up and dying; however these were CB and to answer rancor's inquiry, they are from down yonder. I'd just fed it so called "rosies" and shortly after found it lying on it's back - after some time it seemed to be doing better, but was "star gazing". Later that day, I was attending to other serpents and heard thrashing coming from one of the racks. Uuuum this is getting a little melodramatic, huh ... anyway, the symptoms seem to suggest thiaminase ingestion, but I tend to think it would only effect them if subjected to it's presence in food items over an extended period of time, and nothing I've fed them is known to contain thiaminase in significant quantities. In other words, I do not know. (then, why not just say that poool ?) Needless to say, it was a rather disconcerting thing to witness. Nice looking marcianus. Very different looking examples of "normals". As I've said "elsewhere" [yeah, there, not there], I actually like the "classic" amelanistic look "white throat" melanistic sirtalis cuz Phil likes them ... and me too ... cyrtopsis ps cool , but somewhat startling avatar, Steven pps muchas gracias to Stav & Marc ppps good stuff , Don ... the fertile eggs too pppps no offense ever taken ...

Unfortunately, I had one go into convulsions and die on me, so I only have two males ... as per your request, Nir ... perhaps an indication that I'd make a terrible Mod ....crunch ps

Thanks Manu - that helps a lot;) ... for a moment there, I thought I was having one of my moments ... It's good to see rancor out and about again with that most curious little strapped carty thing of his in tow & some thamnophis photos... this little puget-head wasn't keen on switching to pinks, until I used the special mix. It took the pinky head and left the wormy goodness ... go figure ps nice wee courin', timorous pits

very nice non leucistics, Phil

Thanks for the invite, Justin... and all your most hospitable hospitality ... C'est vraiment gentil de ta part. I'm curious to see what you have up your sleeve this time, Phil ...

nice to see your pics up again, Jeremy... I just posted somewhere else, but I'm not sure where it went ... if anywhere