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Do you think sports hunting should be banned in your country? Yes : 90 - 93 % No: 6 - 6 % Total: 96 ------------------ coucou les filles ! :D

C'est pas impossible que ça embrouille un peu. (S'ils se trompent, ils devraient quand même pouvoir retrouver leur chemin après) Sinon, 1) n'y a-t-il pas moyen de placer une indication devant le lien, genre "retour vers le site" ou autre ? 2) pourquoi dans 2 cases et pas simplement 1 ? Je t'embête avec mes questions, fille des contrées sauvages ? à +

:D Ah, j'ai pu poster aujourd'hui. ça marchait pas les jours précédents ! C'est normal que sur la page d'entrée du Forum, il y ait le lien aequoanimo.com sous Végétarisme ainsi que sous Adoptions ? Bon, à bientôt, (je retourne à mon boulot, c'est la panique) et très bonne journée à vous !

Oui, c'est assez récent. Effectivement, les fédérations de chasse et de pêche ont l'air de s'inquiéter de la diminution de leurs effectifs et elles vont racoler dans les écoles. En nimbant tout ça bien sûr, de foutaises du genre "on apprend avant tout aux enfants à découvrir la nature, la faune". :evil: Bref, y'a des claques qui se perdent !

Pour répondre au petit sondage : Personne ne mange de viande chez moi non plus. En fait, je ne connais (plus) personne qui mange de la viande , faut dire que mon "petit monde" est assez restreint

Pour l'instant, je n'ai pas eu le temps de bien lire ce truc gratiné ! dans la lettre du trappeur : " j’ai choisi une carrière en biologie de la faune. Cette profession me permettait d’appliquer mes compétences en piégeage à la gestion et à la recherche entourant mes chers animaux à fourrure." c'est de l'ironie ou il est sincère c't'abruti ? beurk !

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Quand l'élevage empiète sur les forêts En Amérique latine, l'accroissement de la production animale s'effectue au détriment de la forêt pluviale tropicale. Pour la première fois, la FAO publie une carte montrant les prévisions d'expansion des terres agricoles et des pâturages sur les forêts tropicales à l'horizon 2010. «La déforestation due à l'élevage extensif est une des principales causes de la perte de certaines espèces végétales et animales uniques dans les forêts ombrophiles d'Amérique centrale et d'Amérique du Sud ainsi que d'émission de carbone dans l'atmosphère», a déclaré Henning Steinfeld, chef de la sous-division de l'information, de l'analyse sectorielle et des politiques en matière d'élevage à la FAO. (...) Article : http://193.247.189.70/agrihebdo/journal/artikel.cfm?id=45238 Sce: www.fao.org

Armchair Activist By JJswans - JJswans@aol.com An armchair activist, like an armchair quarterback, is one who is critical of those activists who are actually in the "trenches" helping animals, but who has no experience from which to make valid criticisms. This last week I've seen several of these armchair activists condemning Peta for their work in North Carolina. Mind you, Peta has been doing the dirty work, improving impossible conditions, while the armchair activist sits at his comfortable desk, slamming Peta for its actions and insisting that he knows better how to spend their money. And all the while he shows the world that he really doesn't understand the scope of the problem with companion animal overpopulation in this country, nor does he understand what's involved in sheltering and caring for homeless animals. What started the armchair activist on his/her rant? Newspapers reported that two employees of Peta were arrested on various charges after they were linked with the disposal of plastic bags of dead cats and dogs in supermarket trash bins after they had been killed by lethal injection. But instead of waiting to hear all the facts, the armchair activist begins to pound out his vitriolic attack on his computer keyboard. The armchair activist doesn't even consider that there is another side of the story, nor that what's being reported is not convictions, nor that there might be mitigating circumstances. Normally, news reports are something that activists learn to read with a grain of salt when it comes to reports about animal activists, but because they give ammunition to Peta's detractors, these reports are taken as gospel - the whole truth and nothing but the truth. What the news reports didn't say is how horrible the conditions were that Peta has been trying to improve for several years. Peta was first alerted to the problem by a Bertie, North Carolina police officer in 2000, whose concerns triggered a Peta investigation of several so-called shelters in Bertie County and Hertford County where Peta found some of the animals housed in "shacks without heating in which animals were left to drown or freeze to death," according to Peta's website at www.helpinganimals.com/f-nc.asp Also reported by the officer was a large white dog found drowning in a pool of water, lying on her side and too sick and weak to lift her head; a starving dog eating a dead kitten; no covering for the cages; no electricity; and methods of killing the animals that were barbaric, including a leaky, rusty, windowless box where animals were crammed on top of each other, and then gassed to death. This gas chamber can be seen at http://www.helpinganimals.com/phots/nc/LG-gaschamber.jpg . Other methods included restraining animals on a metal pole and shooting them with a .22 caliber gun. Northhampton was killing dogs and cats with an injectable paralytic agent that causes suffocation while the animal is awake and aware that it can't breathe. These "shelters" are in impoverished counties where animal control is the least of community concerns. They are located in remote locations, are not open for adoptions, and are minimally staffed by one warden whose duties include responding to dog bites and stray animals. Peta found injured and sick animals in the shelter that were badly in need of veterinary care. Many had parvovirus and contagious mange. Chains were found imbedded in dog's necks. There was no protection from the elements. A water hose froze in winter. Animals drowned during floods and froze to death during winter. Peta sent a team to offer aid to Bertie County in order to train shelter staff in proper feeding and cleaning protocols, and built doghouses within the kennels to provide shelter from the elements - a desperately needed improvement. Peta made arrangements to pay a local veterinarian to euthanize the animals painlessly at the Hertford facility and has paid, to-date, $9,000 for the service. When checking back with the Bertie shelter, they found conditions deteriorated again. Countless piles of feces were throughout the shelter, dogs living in their own filth, a bag of food thrown into the dog run and left to get wet in the rain, a dead wet cat lying in the middle of the dog run, two dead puppies in an empty food bag. At that time they issued an action alert that can still be seen at www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-20feb2001-peta.html All the inhumane methods of killing stopped after Peta volunteered to provide a peaceful painless death free of charge. No secret was made that they euthanized animals and that the animals retrieved from the pounds would be provided with a humane death. One of Peta's employees met with officials and was never asked about adoption. The shelters don't have an adoption program or an adoption rate, and never have. Since 2003 Peta has submitted several proposals to officials and attended several meetings where they offered and begged to be allowed to implement an on-site adoption program, among other things. Officials weren't interested. Peta worked with the shelters to clean old cages and build new ones, train personnel, provide supplies and service. They spent more than $250,000 on veterinary and other services in one North Carolina County alone. They built a cat shelter from the ground up in an area where cats were previously set free in the woods to breed. While all this was going on, Peta also delivered hundreds of free dog houses and straw to dogs throughout the community, who were chained to metal barrels or with no shelter at all, and have paid to spay/neuter countless animals already in homes. This, of course, was in effort to reduce the birth rate so that less animals would end up homeless and would mean less animals in the area's death trap shelters. What does the future hold for the animals in the area if these shelters terminate their relationship with Peta? They will go back to their old ways. As for the armchair activist - what happens to the dogs and cats who are born into a world that doesn't want them, has not cared for them, and ultimately has abandoned them to be disposed of? The armchair activist has all the answers. S/he thinks that all Peta has to do is build no-kill sanctuaries. But the armchair activist doesn't have a grip on the massive undertaking this would entail, nor does he understand what it would do to the animals themselves. The armchair activist believes that any life, no matter how lonely, no matter how fearful, is better than no life at all. And that's an easy thing for the armchair activist to believe, because he doesn't have to live it, doesn't have to see the animals suffer for his choices. The armchair activist doesn't take into account that dogs have evolved, through selective breeding, into animals that want to be part of human families. The armchair activist thinks that a dog living in a kennel all it's life, is experiencing a life worth living. How big must the fantasy sanctuary in the armchair activists mind be, that it can handle the millions of dog and cats that are killed in this country every year because of lack of homes? And that's just this year - what about next year, and the year after that? We all look forward to a no-kill society, where adoptable animals don't have to die, but the armchair activist forgets that this is a goal to work towards - one that will only be reached with education, spay/neuter campaigns, and possibly even legislation. It's not going to be solved overnight, and it certainly isn't going to be solved solely with sanctuaries, because as homeless animals are warehoused in sanctuaries, people come to the conclusion that it's okay to breed more. There will always be those that don't care about orphaned animals, and will just produce more to make money or to please themselves, but that number increases when people think that their actions don't cause the deaths of dogs and cats that are already here, needing homes. Something else that the armchair activist doesn't realize about sanctuaries is that they fill quickly and need to turn subsequent orphan animals away. For those that they can take in, if no homes are available, the adoptable animals become "cage-bound" and are no longer adoptable. So, such animals are being kept while they slowly become unadoptable and have to be killed anyway - even by the no-kills. And then there is always the fine line between being a sanctuary, and being a hoarder or collector. The armchair activist also conveniently ignores the efforts Peta has made to educate and to spay/neuter. Not only in the counties that are currently in question, but all over the country. Not only do they have a mobile spay/neuter van called the "Snip-Mobile" (www.helpinganimals.com/i-nobirth-snip.html) that helps reduce the birth rate in their area, but they also offer free downloads of educational literature on spay/neuter, and many other companion animal issues at (www.helpinganimals.com/t-lit.html). And hopefully they will be able to continue to help the animals in North Carolina to have a reduction of births, better housing, and a merciful death when there are no other options. One other thing that the armchair activist sees fit to complain about is the method that the Peta employees used to dispose of the remains of the animals they euthanized, which was by putting them in plastic bags and placing them in dumpsters. This may or may not be ill advised, and apparently was illegal, as dumping anything in private dumpsters is illegal. However, the normal method of disposing of dead animals by animal control in that area is to send them to a landfill. Which basically means that they would end up in the same place as the contents of the dumpster. More things for the armchair activist to consider: · It costs taxpayers an estimated $2 billion each year to round up, house, kill, and dispose of homeless animals. · An estimated 7 million cats and dogs are killed in U.S. shelters each year. · 47% of cats surrendered to U.S. shelters are not spayed or neutered. · 55% of dogs surrendered to U.S. shelters are not spayed or neutered. · 67,000 puppies can be born from one female dog and her offspring in 7 years. · 420,000 kittens can be born from one female cat and her offspring in 6 years. · 71% of cats and kittens entering U.S. animal shelters are destroyed. · 55% of dogs and puppies entering U.S. animal shelters are destroyed. · For every human born, 6 puppies and kittens are born. Where would you like those 6 puppies and kittens, for each of your family members, delivered? My advice to the armchair activist? Get off your duff and volunteer at a shelter, or with a rescue group. See what life is really like in the world of homeless animals. Sce : The official ANIMAL RIGHTS ONLINE newsletter

Un rapport des Nations Unis met en garde contre l'un des + grands problèmes environnementaux : la désertification. voilà qui est nouveau La désertification, menace majeure pour l'environnement lire ici : http://www.tv5.org/TV5Site/info/afp_article.php?rub=sci&idArticle=050616192822.kec86f6v.xml&titre=La+d%E9sertification%2C+menace+majeure+pour+l%27environnement

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Protocole de Kyoto : la Chine refuse de s'engager avant 2012 16 juin 2005 La Chine attendra 2012, fin de la première phase du protocole de Kyoto, avant de se fixer des objectifs en matière de réduction de gaz à effets de serre. Le ministre chinois de l'Environnement a déclaré mardi que, d'ici là, son pays observerait avec soin comment les autres pays ratificateurs s'y prendraient pour atteindre leurs engagements. Il a ajouté que, en attendant, rien n'empêche son pays de prendre des mesures pour réduire les émissions responsables du réchauffement. Brève de Libération http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=304392

La PMAF est à l'initiative d'un Manifeste pour l'interdiction de l'élevage intensif des poulets de chair. A signer et faire circuler... C'est ici : http://www.poulets.fr/index.php

Rimbunan Hijau, une grosse companie d'exploitation forestière dévore littéralement la forêt, tout en exploitant les populations locales. Atteintes aux droits de l'homme, exploitation illégale de la forêt, tout ça sous l'oeil bienveillant de Patrick Pruaitch, Ministre des Forêts visiblement corrompu. La lettre à signer (et à personnaliser 1 peu si possible) en ligne demande au 1er Ministre de virer Patrick Pruaitch et de se débarrasser des compagnies telles que Rimbunan Hijau. http://forests.org/action/alert.asp?id=png

Activists release seal-hunt footage Colin Perkel Canadian Press - Wednesday, June 01, 2005 TORONTO -- Animal activists continued their campaign against the slaughter of seals on the east coast Wednesday by releasing new footage of this year's seal hunt, which they say depicts acts of "horrific" cruelty as well as violations of the Criminal Code. Officials in Ottawa responded by dismissing the new footage as little more than an annual rite of protest in the long-running, emotionally charged war between Canadian sealers and opponents of the practice. The footage depicts acts that Rebecca Aldworth, Canadian director of the Humane Society of the United States, said violate both the cruelty-to-animals provisions of the Criminal Code and marine regulations aimed at keeping the slaughter humane. "What we saw was absolutely horrific," Aldworth told a news conference. "It's something that no compassionate Canadian could ever accept if they could see it for themselves." In several scenes, seals hit with spiked clubs called hakapiks appeared to still be conscious, their blood staining the ice floes off the coast of Newfoundland, while their attackers rush to catch up to the next scampering target. Aldworth accused hunters of throwing seals into stockpiles and leaving them to "suffocate in their own blood," of stabbing them with metal spikes and dragging the animals across the ice while they continued to struggle. Phil Jenkins, a spokesman for the Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, defended the annual practice, which allowed some 12,000 licensed seal hunters to harvest nearly one million animals between 2003 and 2005. Freshly killed seals often exhibit a "swim reflex" that makes them appear alive, Jenkins said from Ottawa. "If somebody has evidence of cruelty to seals, we would like to see it . . .bring it on," he said. "Where we find violations and people not following the rules, we will prosecute them - and we do." During the hunt, which began in mid-April, about a quarter of a million seals, most between 12 days and three months old, were harvested over several weeks. The footage also depicts sealers wielding clubs and skinning knives as they force the licensed hunt observers to retreat to their helicopter. "We're here to work," one sealer can be heard yelling. "It's our work." Prof. Ron Sklar, a legal and constitutional expert at McGill University, said the intimidation appeared to him to be a clear violation of both the Criminal Code and the constitutional rights of the observers. "The observers were there lawfully," Sklar said. "They were not there to disrupt the hunt." Based on the videotapes, Sklar said he believed police would have had grounds to charge the sealers with threatening bodily harm, intimidation, criminal harassment or aggravated assault. The activists have sent the video to the RCMP in Charlottetown in hopes of prompting an investigation. Dr. Mary Richardson, past chair of the animal welfare committee of the Ontario Veterinary Medical Association, said she believes it's impossible to slaughter seals humanely and legally, given the short time frame, the tools used and the number and size of the animals killed. "Most of the seals are dying inhumanely," Richardson said. Jenkins cited a 2002 study by the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association - a study the hunt's detractors denounce as flawed - that says 98 per cent of the seals die humanely. "The images are emotive, there's no doubt about it. However, the method of killing with hakapiks is very efficient and humane." Hunters have long argued the seal harvest is a critical part of their annual income, while its detractors say Ottawa has misled Canadians into believing the practice is economically necessary in eastern Canada. The society says the hunt yields about $1,200 for each of about 4,000 sealers and forms just a tiny fraction of their livelihoods and the East Coast economy. http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=b320a698-4291-41ce-af74-97e11f795e5c

Forêts : environ 15 millions d’hectares sont détruits chaque année dans le monde A New York, a eu lieu la 5e session du forum des Nations unies sur les forêts. Thème « Restauration des forêts du monde ». «Représentant 56 % des forêts mondiales, les forêts tropicales et subtropicales sont les plus menacées par la dégradation et la destruction», a indiqué Henri Djombo (ministre de l'Environnement du Congo). «Néanmoins, la déforestation a reculé pendant la décennie 1980-1990, passant de 12,8 millions d’hectares par an à 11,5 millions grâce aux efforts entrepris en matière de gestion durable des écosystèmes forestiers.» Causes mentionnées : agriculture sur brûlis, exploitation irrationnelle des bois d’œuvre, de service et d’énergie, produits forestiers non ligneux, activité minière, incendies. Selon le ministre, la régénération naturelle reste la méthode la plus appropriée et la plus écologique pour reconstituer les forêts primaires dégradées et les forêts secondaires. Article - 30/05/05 : http://www.brazzaville-adiac.com/

:twisted: :lol: :D :P :twisted: :thumright: on dirait que la satisfaction fait l'unanimité ! bonne journée vous !

Gibier de valeur ou nuisible. Pas de place pour autre chose, dans l'esprit ("esprit" est exagéré peut-être ) de ces "dé-prédateurs" (je pique le terme à Gérard Charollois)

Activist pleads not guilty to domestic terror charges By RYAN J. FOLEY ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER MADISON, Wis. -- An animal rights activist pleaded not guilty Tuesday to domestic terrorism charges that he freed mink from Midwestern farms in 1997, causing thousands of dollars in damage and spreading fear through the nation's fur farmers. Peter Daniel Young, 27, originally of Mercer Island, Wash., made the plea in U.S. District Court. He had eluded authorities for more than seven years. Judge Theresa M. Owens ordered Young held without bail, saying he is "a flight risk and danger to the community." Investigators say Young is part of the Animal Liberation Front, a radical group that aims to destroy animal-related industries. An FBI official said last week ALF and similar groups are the nation's top domestic terrorism threat. Prosecutors allege Young and Justin Samuel set out to cripple the fur industry in 1997, freeing more than 7,000 mink from their cages at five farms in Iowa, South Dakota and Wisconsin. The two were indicted in 1998 on four counts of interference with commerce by threat or violence and two counts of animal enterprise terrorism. If convicted, Young could face 82 years in prison. Authorities in 1999 picked up Samuel, who agreed to cooperate in exchange for a two-year prison sentence. Young was a fugitive until March when he was arrested on a shoplifting count, accused of stealing some CDs from a Starbucks in San Jose, Calif. Authorities extradited Young on Monday to Wisconsin, the nation's largest mink-producing state. Young said nothing during his court appearance but smiled and waved at more than 30 supporters as he left the crowded courtroom. Sympathizers have started a Web site to raise money for his defense. Teresa Platt, executive director of Fur Commission USA, a trade association for mink farmers in 28 states, said the attacks terrorized Midwestern farmers. "It's really sad that he made one bad decision after another and compounded it with fleeing for eight years," she said. "He has thrown his life away. As one of my farmers said, he has succeeded in simply caging himself." Platt noted that ALF claimed responsibility for releasing 58 pens of foxes from a farm in Illinois in April to show solidarity with Young. She urged farmers to be vigilant. Defense lawyer Chris Kelly, who entered the plea of not guilty, criticized federal prosecutors after the hearing "for seriously misusing the word terrorism." "What's been charged here isn't close to flying a plane into a building," he said. Bob Anderson, an assistant U.S. attorney, said Young committed "an act of terrorism" by trying to impose his will on others by using violence. He said the crime spree cost farmers $569,000 in lost livestock and other damages. Anderson said the prosecution will send a "message to persons either considering these actions or perpetrating these actions that this is not a legitimate form of free expression." "Sometimes there's a cost to being a folk hero," Anderson said. Mary Ann Sveom, an animal rights activist from Beloit, said the "government is overreaching in this particular case." She said the case was about "the cruelty of mink farming," not terrorism. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=Activist%20Captured

La culture du soja, qui a bondi de 50 % au Brésil depuis 2001, à la faveur de la hausse du cours mondial du grain, repousse l'élevage bovin dans la forêt quand elle ne détruit pas celle-ci pour s'y installer. (...) Entre août 2003 et août 2004, 26 130 km2 de forêt et de savane ont été détruits en Amazonie brésilienne, soit 6 % de plus qu'entre les mois d'août 2002 et 2003. Le soja brésilien dévore la forêt amazonienne http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=298894

C'est vrai que c'est un peu difficile à gober cette affaire Dans un autre genre, "Le courrier de l'environnement," journal de la SNPN (Société Nationale de Protection de la Nature) avait présenté, il n'y a pas très longtemps) une étude censée démontrer que le recyclage du papier avait un impact plus nocif sur l'environnement - et la biodiversité (trop de forêts => moins d'espèces d'oiseaux etc...)- que le fait de couper des arbres. ça m'avait laissé très dubitative

132 maires américains ont rejoint une coalition démocrate et républicaine, pour lutter contre le réchauffement climatique, désavouant implicitement la politique de l'administration Bush". Ces villes (représentant 29 millions de citoyens répartis dans 35 Etats) veulent s'engager pour une réduction d'ici à 2012 des émissions de gaz à effet de serre de 7 % du niveau atteint en 1990. http://www.courrierinternational.com/article.asp?obj_id=51586&provenance=ecologie&bloc=03 Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules - 14/05/05 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/14/national/14kyoto.html?ex=1116993600&en=d4d263821c1b0a74&ei=5070&oref=login

Première réunion exploratoire sur l'"après-Kyoto" 16 mai 2005 BONN (AFP) - 150 pays se sont retrouvés lundi à Bonn, en Allemagne, pour faire le point sur la lutte internationale contre le changement climatique et envisager de nouvelles mesures à l'échéance en 2012 du protocole de Kyoto. Le protocole, entré en vigueur le 16 février dernier, impose une réduction moyenne de 5,2% des gaz à effet de serre en 2008-2012 par rapport au niveau de 1990 aux seuls pays développés. Même avec les Etats-Unis, qui l'ont rejeté en 2001, le protocole n'aurait ralenti le réchauffement planétaire que de 0,2 degré en 2100, d'après le scientifique français Jean Jouzel. l'article : http://www.lefigaro.fr/perm/afp/sci/050516193659.n3r9tc15.html

ONU: la déforestation se poursuit à un rythme alarmant 13 mai 2005 - AFP La déforestation se poursuit à un "rythme alarmant", a estimé vendredi l'ONU à la veille d'une réunion internationale sur les forêts organisée au siège de l'organisation à New York. Le taux net de déboisement est encore de 9,4 millions d'hectares par an, observe l'ONU dans un communiqué. dépêche : http://www.lefigaro.fr/perm/afp/sci/050513185208.j0ml6ncp.html