Stav

Edit .... Sorry wrong post ... see IBD post

Forgot .......if someone is too lasy to go read on the reptiles canada english forum my views on the whole subject and more , go on your msn's and ask a Guy that knows me like Justin or Nir or whoever else on how much i like money or think about money with my snakes ...... before again judjing people you dont know and have no clue what you talk about ..... EDIT**** dont forget too to ask to people that know me personnally how much I " prostitute " myself when it comes to selling people too or if I prostitute myself in sales even if I would not have anything to eat .... how much i prostute myself not selling to people before making any judgements on me ..... lol the more i read the more i'm surprised ........

My god stop i'm gonna cry ....... If you wanna leave feel free to do so no one kicked you out or banned anybody ..... The same old thing ...... people start a debate ...... but they only want to be said what only " They want to hear " and then cry when someone expresses their opinions, and view on their says .... especially when it goes that whats said goes quite in the same direction ..... same old narcissistic tunel vision ...... Listen dear I invite you go read on reptiles canada my views on the subject especially since 2005 after a trip to corcovado park 1 month in costa-rica and then speak to me on how I view the whole internet and the hobby .....since you speak only english and cant read here and see how much i care about money or how much i breed or not breed or if sell or not sell ..... you know what we say here ? Breath by the nose ...... Some of you made some sence on some views unfortunatly everything is in deep sea after viewing these late posts ..... Did anyone " sensorshiped anything ? " did i miss something ?? Or did someone just expressed his views on something that dosent make your happyness happy ? ....... I never felt challenged I only talked my views on some points....... If you dont like other people sharing other opinions different than yours feel free to do what ever you want leave or stay ..... we are in a free country here .....

See there is some missunderstanding because of language barrier in one subject ..... imagin in a thread with fifty subjects 12 pages long ..... this is what I was trying to explain previously ..... Do I take all this as if it was directed to me ? Absolutely not ..... the only thing though its that I can " only share My personnal views and how it concerns me as well because I do have a bunch of morphs and also breed ..... so when i see someone talks about Hobby Passion not being there , about money makers , about carring for nothing or being somekind of market whore ..... it concerns me as well I cant put words in others mouth that dont talk if there is some .... do you understand now ? I'll transfer right now your inbreeding and ethics in another thread as its gonna be easier as well and respond to you there ..... give me time i'm really slow ....

Hey Craig, that's my favorite part of your post. I know Stav does take a long time for posts about ideology and i sometimes do too but i'm really not into it tonight, so i'll just leave it to this. I find it strange that people say they love an animal and yet they transform it so much, not to mention that it alters the bloodlines and the genepools... Doesnt make much sense to me. Anyways, goodnight . phil. Obviously you dont know what you are talking about ...... and isint it you that talks about purity and portray the snakes you import like locals like the redtailed greens ..... as " Java" local ? because they the ones you got where silver and that the wholesaler there told you that they were from a specific local taking it for granted and spewing it like if it was god that told " its called missrepresenting " ..... this even if I told in person many time that you gonna have a bunch of colours in the clutches no matter their local or if they where silver ???????? Offcourse you shut your mouth hey Bistro ? By the way I never heard any thanks from your mouth in person or even on a forum on telling you how to properly incubate your eggs you got from those wc females ...... not me not Elchef or Justin ..... you know what ..... they would have ended up like your others attemps to incubate ...... You are one that speaks about " profit " , " morphs" and things pêople should do or should not do or what everyone is capable of keeping safely ...... or selling ..... What a hypocritic view on the whole thing when a guy is proud to write axanthic on a scrub " and this even without genetics proven ... a wc one " ..... and on top of that criticising people selling anacondas or other dangerous snakes , when " you " , Your self is selling dangerous snakes like scrubs at large at a close to a 1000% profit from your original wc Cost ...... youre one that How much are you selling the silver babies that cost you nothing to produce ( wc gravid females ) ? 175$ each ??? now if this is not profit ....... hummmmmm For me you can sell whatever price you want or even give them free whatever the snake but dont have a 2 faced hypocrit standard were when it fits you you shut your mouth ..... and when it fits others their ethics are no good and are worthless ...... I gave sold in the past regular boas to up to 350$ - 400$ because ÙI decided they where worth that but without playing the adolescent " waht fits me " is ok what fits you its not ..... So spare us your " Love for animals " love for the hobby " and your twisted two faces talks where its ok for you to import """""" WC stuff - making tons of profit on them - some times missrepresennting them as locality stuff to be able to sell them as something special just like the exporter that sells them to you """""" all this hidden behind " conservation " You never gave anything to the community not even a single at the reptile club for the raffles ...... the freaking redtailed green rats where 12$ u.s EACH ..... Spare us the same old chorus ......or be sincere and stop having double standards ..... and make the profit that you judge ok for you ...... otherwise in good french ..... Basically ..... PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH or shut up ....

Yep the purpose of a forum is infact to invite discution ..... thought when someone will judge me without even knowing anything about me and telling me i do stuff for $$$ or i'm a whore because i have morphs or toothpics it is not an invite to discution on any subject . Its just like if I would say ..... people that keep colubris are a bunch of whores .... Gays are sick ..... Blacks are a lower species etc.... etc.... all this is where it comes too ...do you understand ? Yep I do breed boas but i've also kept a ton of colubrids and some python species too and bred too even on a few generations "ncluding local reptiles" when I was younger , infact thats where I learned by myself most of the basics not only of care but breeding and its not only two three years ago that i'm in this hobby and you also will never see me bragging about it . See where it goes too ? Do you know how I learned about hibernation ? By diging a whole at age 7or 8 in the snow under my moms deck and putting 60-70 garter snakes in it and making sure that they were all covered by many inches of snow after trying one and seen that it was slowing down to eventually stop moving . All this because i've seen a documentary on tv in english and in my childs head didint get it right ... i found out around a hoit day in april or may that they where all dead because my mom gave me a bag of shit because there was something stinking under the deck .... it was the top of the pile that thawd and stinked because where it was the sun penetrated under the deck ..... Do you wanna know what I used to do when i was young with the local snakes I was breeding and returning the babies to their spot ? I was cutting part of their tails to be able to identify them in my spots the years after .... of course i was contient that when i saw many with missing tails that it could be an animal that predated on them or something like that but when you see a cpl of dozens in a summer there,s pretty good chances that some are from the tail cuts .... Do you wanna know how I used to find out what garters , milks and water snakes were eating when I was young ? Probably not but i'll tell you anyways .... I would make them regurge by pushing everything upwards so that I see what was in there ..... and no it was not harmfull and yes they would breed the next season or seasons ..... So do you know what view I have on people that would judge me on what i have or what i've done or what I dont have or didint done or say to me if the only thing I care is $$$ because i have morphs and the passion and ethics that I dont have ??? .... you dont wanna now ..... do you get what I mean ? ................ " worthless speach " and i'll put this on my " big whore breeders website " that I dont have under the " facility " which i also dont have .... for my friend D.Pogue on the other thread i"ve seen before writing this ..... So if you wanna discuss , share your views on something you are welcome .... but you have no right to judge me when you dont know me .... get what I mean ? Now if I was an ass**** that would represent stuff otherwise what they are or if I fuck people for $$$ or misslead anyone to make a $$$ ..... then go for it because then I'm a "whore with the a** streched as wide as possible " for a buck or two ...... I guess not much will be understood because of my english .... if there is anything just let me know and i'll try to explain it better . For the other parts of your message i'll start threads in english to speak about even if there is some in french already made so that people that are interested in : IBD , Inbreeding and other stuff can take part and it will be easier to understand and read with different individual topics .... ( give me some time I have a mac now and i'm slow computer learner .... )

how narrow minded some are ...... a bunch of childs that dont wanna understand i wonder what is not understandable to give people a chance to understand texts especially in english on french forum ..... and give the opportunity to be easy when they search for something that is for interest for them .... sorry its not me that put everybody in the same boat and its not me either that is treating people like whores without even knowing their background or passion yheir accomplishements failures or views .... good luck in your futur if you want start your own forum where people act like childs and deform everything and that dont take replies that dont fit their standards especially when they themselfs put everything in the same basket without any questions made .... As for D Pogue ..... Go read on any forum english or french since you speak french a bit of what I write and then critisize if its only pics post , or what i say on wannabe "website breeders " ..... Then and only then spit your spit like you do here ..... Goodbye childs ...... too bas there was some nice subjects that could serve the reptile community ....

Continuation of this thread here please : http://www.repticlic.com/discussion-generale-reptiles-general-reptiles-discussion-f6/the-bienvenu-la-revolution-thread-here-in-this-post-t6804.htm Thanks

Piqure de tetanos oubli pas Nic ( sérieux mon beau frèere c'étais rendu au torce donc pres du coeur et ca a fini par des antibiotiques intraveineux a l'hosto ) Pour le reste ...... y en a qui mangent du burm ...... pk pas des chats ?

I y a 24 au total des photos individuelles feront disponible apres la premiere mue Hey Stav thanks my friend now tell me when are we going to catch some monster sturgeon Vlad La peche est déja commenée ça commence par le Barbu lol

Si je peux ..... Tout ce qui flamable ( autrement dit qui peut mettre le feux ou dégager des vapeurs nocives une fois chauffé spécialement si des enfants sont présents dans les alentours ) est a éviter prèes d'une source de chaleur comme une lampe ou autre bidule du genre oubliez pas que une des raisons pour laquelle on ne peut pas ou pratiquement pas s'assurer quand on possede des reptiles c'est : LE FEUX Ex de choses a éviter ( et ça retient de la logique ) : - Saran Wrap - Plastiques Inflammables - Bois- Vernis - Peintures - papiers - cartons etc... - Tout objet ou matériel susceptible de prendre feux ou dégager des substances toxiques dommageable une fois chauffé a court , moyen ou long terme. La meilleure solution quand on veut diminuer l'entrée et sortie d"air d'un terra près d'une lampe ou autre source de chaleur c'est : LA Vitre. Tu peux la couper aux dimenssions que tu veux et la faire fiter esthétiquement même sans avoir a te casser la tete à savoir si c'est inflammable et si y a danger de feux . J'espère que ça t'aide un peu plus dans tes démarches

Its been a long time …….. got a temporary pc back …… what a post ….. Continuation here of this post : http://www.repticlic.com/colubrides-et-autres-serpents-colubrids-and-other-snakes-f21/bienvenue-a-la-revolution-t5863-330.htm#53547 First …Let me remind you that this site is not a board of inquiry like the BOI or any shitty site like this where people breath , eat and shit msn and facebook day and night with their imaginary friendships where everything is said positivly or not because a transaction went good or where people are bashed when they shouldent be or where people arent and should be …. Freedom of speach its one thing and for sure not a site like the BOI ….Neither its a free for all chaotic party here…. .Second …..A post hard to follow for french speaking boys and girls , going in too many directions on 12 pages …. I suggest that you split your subjects …. A thread that would have as a title « morphs » or whatever related would be great . Same thing with all the other subjects discussed in this thread …. Beauty snakes ? make a thread with a title ralated and talk about beauty snakes ….. You wanna talk about if burmese pythons or dangerous snakes should or not be kept in the hobby , make a thread in this direction ….. if you wanna talk about herping , there is a herping section as well ….. too bad because there is some nice stuff in this thread that should be red but will not be by most of people including me because its too hard to follow in english ….. I didint read the whole thread because its like a « pile of mixed spaghetti « some times with an ugly spaghetti sauce taste and sometimes with good one . Some good points and some « hypocritic , narcissistic, two faced self belly buttons watchers even some parts look like speaches of 12 yr old adolencents in full identity crissis that wanna find a cause to stick too with a tunnel vision without a periferic view….. « Hey…. Let me ask you something …… Who the f *** some of you guys think you are judging other peoples capabilities of keeping some reptiles or what should they like or dislike or what direction they wanna represent their hobby or how they do it , or if they do it for whatever reason etc,,,, etc,,,,, especially without even knowing someones backgroud or what he did or did not in the hobby or his efforts , successes and failures or the passion he has for his hobby ? Who some of you seriously think they are ? So many missleading false representation of the hobby and its people….and its a shame ….. Morph Whores ?, Money making ? , industry ?, market ???? Who the f*** are you again to judge people like you do ? Who the F*** are you to speak about protection , evolution and all what comes with it ? Who of those who speak ( including that idiot bee something i red in the post who the only truth or intelligent he spoke is Corey being a pionneer which he really is by his choice making his passion a Job from a to z again who the f*** are people to judge someone that decides the direction of his life and what he does or does not with his life) who here gave something in the auction from their own production or stuff they have in some quantity that they bough or not ? Only Stevie with what i understand ….. Money making ???? who here sold any snake ….. cribos , indigos , beautys , corns , racers , kings , milks , balls , boas , rat snakes or anything else at an affordable price for anyone to buy ??? ……. How come indigos are sold this much ? How come they are not sold at a fair price like a boa is which is between 75 and 150$ or a ball at 25 – 50 $???? Not to mention other examples …. Maybe hypocrytic self centered thinking maybe ? Most of the comments or views here are not worth more than PETA or « Brigitte Titie Bardeau « or the idiot anthropomorphistic newbie crack heads that find that feeding a snake to a snake is something that shouldent exist …… same hypocritic level the only difference is the subjects …. Now personnally ….. Do I think that the hobby is sick and getting sicker every day ? - The answer is yes Do I think that there should be people in this hobby that shouldent be part of it ? - The answer is yes Do i think there is reptiles being missreprensented just for the $ sign at the end ? - The answer is yes Dp I think that because of internet the hobby exploded and that there is people seing and getting in this hobby thinking they gonna get rich one day ? - The answer is yes Do I think and beleive by experience that many people make themselfs big heads way more than they really are by creating an internet « image » of something that they are not ? - yes many and many more every year Do I think that many new guys portray themselfs as businisses with their original well made sites when in fact they are like most of the people here in Canada breeders except 1 or 2 that made a living out of their hobby ? - Yes absolutely Do I think that its a disgrace for the hobby a F***er that buys and ressels stuff « BUT « claims its his production ? - Yes again Do I think this hobby takes sometimes the appearance of : the cliche of the old english grannies sharing some biscuits drinking a cup of tea with two fingers holding the cup and with their pinkies up in the air talking together like people on « MSN or face book ? « … - Again the answer is yes ….. and for many more things too that would take me months to enumerate ….. All this said …… Is there many people in this hobby that are straight, with a passion for there hobby …….no matter there sexes , sexual preferences , weight , color , deseases , education background , age etc……..and this no matter what they keep, like or dont keep and dislike no matter if its a lombric , a cricket , a ratsnake or a 4 zillion $$$$ snake ????????? - Offcourse there are plenty ! yes Do I personnally try to make the things real, represent the animals as they really are and are not and represent the hobby as it really is and put the passion before anything else no matter the discution , the money value , the transaction or whatever else and make sure people understand what I say before they get a snake and say to them to forget the amount of $$$ from 1 $ to 10 zillion $ that they pay or that they think they gonna make or « project « to make ? - Yes and i’ll continue to do it until i’m out of it , this is called education and its starts from there , for sure not like things said here like the Morph Whores and anything that comes with it ….. To bad that this thread looks like a bunch msn texts of people in their own universe chatting 24-7 , one track minded with a bit of narcissism , high self esteem, no differential views on the subject that everything in the same basket and a hint of 12 yr olds in crissis judjing people without even knowing their background , knowledge or true intentions in this hobby along with who should or should not keep whatever reptile or grain of sand …….. Everything starts with education when you want change on something ….. If you guys wanna continue debating on this subject debate here , if some want to debate on other things like :should giants and dangerous snakes should be kept or not start a new thread in the general reptile discution , if you wanna talk about herping go in the herping section etc….. try not to make it chaotic in all directions on 50 pages …… make 50 pages on one subject no problem otherwise its not understandable for someone that reads especially that most of the people are french speaking ….. Cheers

Vraiment superbes Vlad félicitations ! L'an passé c'étais écoeurant tes portées mais pour une deuxieme année de breeding avec succes ca commence écoeurament bien et je te leve mon chapeau ! :shock Comment tu te sent ??????? En te souhaitant que le reste de tes femelles te donnent un paquet d'autres bb j'ai hate de voir tout ca Encore une fois ca vient aussi prouver que les abhérances se transmettent directement en premiere génération Félicitations encore ! I'll be back when i get my computer ....

Merci a tous les exposants et aides de la part de l' Association d' Herpetologie de Montréal ainsi que Les infirmieres impliquées et leurs comité pour cette 7 ieme édition du Zoo des reptiles au cegep de st-jean sur richelieu , encore une fois bien réussit ! Merci a tous pour vous etes déplacés pour faire connaitre votre passion et vous donner a 100 milles a lÙ'heure Merci aussi a tous les visiteurs ca a été vraiment génial de voir tout ce monde ! Au plaisir de répéter l'expérience une 8 ieme fois lan prochain et espérons les 20 prochaines année la je suis sur un autre ordi que chez nous mais je reviendrai dans pas long avec les chiffres aussitôt qu'ils sortent et les noms des exposants et leurs aides pour un update et aussitôt que jÙ'ai un putain d'ordi qui fonctionne ! ...... Félicitation a tous ! Si y en a qui ont des photos genez vous pas pour les mettre ici dans ce post

Si les chromosomes ne peuvent pas se pairer, l'individu ne peut PAS être fertile. Dans l'éventualité où deux hybrides peuvent pairer leurs chromosomes ensemble partant de deux espèces différentes, ça s'appelle de l'allopolyploïdie et c'est un processus de spéciation. L'allopolyploïdie est vraiment rare et, dans la nature, les espèces de deux aires de distributions qui se côtoient ont une zone où des hybrides sont produits, que la sélection naturelle élimine graduellement. Le cas où les hybrides ne seraient pas défavorisés, ça finit par créer des zones d'introgression où les deux espèces finissent par intégrer des gènes de l'autre espèce. Jusqu'ici, je pense pas qu'on ait reporté beaucoup de cas d'hybrides entre Boa sp et Eunectes sp... Corrigez-moi s'il y a des inexactitudes dans ce que je viens d'écrire, svp . phil. Y a rien qui soit pas capable de s'hybridiser à date côté serpents et autant de différents "continents" d'un bout à l'autre de la planète avec des dixaines de milliers de km de distance en plus C'est bien beau la théorie d'école mais la réalité c'est une toute autre chose .... ou bien qu'ils changent la définition de c'est quoi qui est une espèce et surtout " l'évolution " ..... dailleurs ça va sûrement finir par changer avec la génétique et dailleurs Fry est bien parti pour ça . Moi je dis merde à ça j'ai hâte de voir les résultats , j'aimerais bien aussi voir des serpents genre de madagascar se reproduire avec des boas occidentaux ..... on a tellement de choses à apprendre de ça Ça serais le fun aussi de voir ce qui s'hybride du côté des léazards aussi

hehehehehehehehehe sti que té con ! ( j'aime ça demême )

Jolies photos C'étais cool aussi le resto content d'avoir vu tout le monde et le nouveau monde, on a bien rit et en masse

Un gros merçi pour ce magnifique Show à Anick et Nico . On ne s'imagine jamais la préparation qu'un tel show demande Bienvenu les casse-têtes et les heures qu'on ne compte plus surtout quand t'as des enfants et tout ce qui vient avec..... Ça a été formidable ! Ce fût le fun de rencontrer des nouveaux gens et aussi des anciens que ça fais un bail qu'on avais pas vu comme François . J'ai vraiment adoré malgré un 104 de fièvre À force de faire des shows comme ça et éduquer le monde adulte mais aussi les plus jeunes qui auront des postes dans les villes et gouvernements un moment donné on prendra le dessus sur les lois ..... quand quelqu'un voudra passé une loi et que les fonctionnaires eux mêmes auront des reptiles ou même leurs entourages , je ne pense pas que les projets aillent bien loin On se reprend l'an prochain Un gros merçi à Anick et Nico aussi pour nous avoir hébergé encore une fois !!!

ça fais plaisir

Je doute très fort que sûr la photo ça fasse 15 lbs mais des photos ça peut être tompeur .... je t'invite a faire une autre post là dessus avec des photos dans la section Pythons car ici c'est pour les présentations. Des Pythons de 4000g- 5000g et plus c'est pas rare .... il sagit qu'ils aie de l'âge. Ils les importent pas car au lieu d'importer un serpent de 10$ et payer beaucoup d'$$$ pour le transport pour le revendre 25$ ils vont mettre quelques centaines de bb dans une boîte et les vendre 20$ ch..... c,est grossomodo comme ça . Il y en a dailleurs rentré ici des 6 pieds et plus de 12lbs , 1 est mort car échapé , je compte bien en faire importé un moment donné des gros juste pour le plaisir et démontrer combien long et pesant un ball peut devenir. J'ai un ami qui en avait fait venir des assez gros que j'étais supposer acheté aussi mais l'africain lui a chippé des plus petits que 6000 et 8000 g qu'ils étaient supposés avoir ..... ( un autre détail platte de l'importation quand tu fais affaire avec les africains ) .

Non malheureusement Mya y a pas rien de nain encore qui soit prouvé génétique , les boas et dailleurs tous les serpents que j'ai pu travaillé avec se reproduisent quand eux sont prêt et non quand " nous humains penssent " qu'ils sont prêts . Dans le sens que dans la nature personne leurs dit toi tu est près et toi tu ne l'est pas. Celle çi n'a rien d'exceptionnelle non plus ça va encore a bien plus petit que ça et jeune . D'où l'ignorance de certains breeders surtout en amérique du nord et en europe qui représentent ça comme des formes naines quand un serpent se reproduit avec un poid ou âge moindre . Reptil-x ..... je me souviens plus c'est déjà trop loin ....

C'est pas lui .... ( comment y s'appelle déjà ) qui en a des serpents justement ? Cool comme vid

Nice Garters everyone Albinos, Axanthics/Anery , Flames and SF are my favorites Too bad you got 2 males these are eyecandies you could have bred them garters are one of the easiest snakes to breed If I may .... What does this mean ? Dont get it ....

Ça écoeure faut s'inscrire sur le forum pour voir les photos .... quelqu'un a des photos du Lucy?

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